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Old 08-03-2020, 09:43 PM   #5176
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Old 08-03-2020, 10:18 PM   #5177
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Although, it sort of perpetuates this myth that if only everybody did the right stuff, nobody would die of COVID. There's no reason to believe that is true, and lots of evidence that it is not. The precautions were ALWAYS expected to "flatten the curve", not prevent all cases. Maybe this guy wouldn't have died, maybe he would have, you just can't really say with any certainty. That said, I am perfectly willing to cut grieving families a lot of slack about how they express their grief.
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Old 08-03-2020, 10:55 PM   #5178
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Although, it sort of perpetuates this myth that if only everybody did the right stuff, nobody would die of COVID. There's no reason to believe that is true, and lots of evidence that it is not. The precautions were ALWAYS expected to "flatten the curve", not prevent all cases. Maybe this guy wouldn't have died, maybe he would have, you just can't really say with any certainty. That said, I am perfectly willing to cut grieving families a lot of slack about how they express their grief.
Agreed and agreed. Masks aren't even close to 100% (the virus is smaller than the spaces in the material, which is why you see CDC guys in hazmat suits, not surgical masks) and there's all kinds of ways it can legitimately spread from people and to people following the guidelines. But I'm sure it would be aggravating to lose someone to it and see all these people who don't follow the guidelines simply because they don't want to.
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Old 08-04-2020, 02:56 AM   #5179
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https://deadline.com/2020/07/harry-c...ng-1202994418/

Harry Clein, a veteran film publicist who wrote the original press notes for Star Wars and helped develop the innovative internet campaign for The Blair Witch Project, died June 18 of chronic obstructive pulmonary disorder in Atlanta. He was 82.

His death was announced by spokesperson Mark Pogachefsky.
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Old 08-04-2020, 02:58 AM   #5180
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Although, it sort of perpetuates this myth that if only everybody did the right stuff, nobody would die of COVID. There's no reason to believe that is true, and lots of evidence that it is not. The precautions were ALWAYS expected to "flatten the curve", not prevent all cases. Maybe this guy wouldn't have died, maybe he would have, you just can't really say with any certainty. That said, I am perfectly willing to cut grieving families a lot of slack about how they express their grief.
The thing though, is that while not everyone's trying to spread the disease, it's just that there are a lot of people, especially in the U.S. who basically live by a "It's fake" policy, that doesn't help at all, and just makes it more frustrating, so I absolutely understand the families grievances at the same time.
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Old 08-04-2020, 02:14 PM   #5181
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I can fully understand the frustration. I just don't think it is accurate to say "He'd still be alive today if it weren't for those people that don't wear masks!" Maybe he would, maybe he wouldn't. The disease isn't ONLY spread by people ignoring precautions.

That said, while the belief that mask wearing doesn't help and the belief that mask wearing would STOP the spread of the disease are both equally false, one is clearly more dangerous.
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Old 08-04-2020, 02:16 PM   #5182
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People need to wear masks. Period. The ones who refuse to are stupid or jerks.
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Old 08-04-2020, 08:56 PM   #5183
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https://variety.com/2020/tv/obituari...ry-1234724490/

Reni Santoni, who played Poppie in “Seinfeld” and appeared in “Dirty Harry” and other films, died on Aug. 1. He was 81.

According to a Facebook post written by his friend and TV writer-producer Tracy Newman, Santoni died on Saturday morning. He had been “sick for quite a while.”
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Old 08-05-2020, 04:56 PM   #5184
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https://nypost.com/2020/08/05/pete-h...or-dead-at-85/

Pete Hamill, the consummate New York newspaperman and novelist whose 15-year career at the New York Post included stints as a columnist and editor, died Wednesday, his family said. He was 85.

Hamill fell at his Brooklyn home Saturday after returning from dialysis, his brother, writer Denis Hamill, told The Post.
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https://www.thecut.com/2020/08/daisy...y-suicide.html

Daisy Coleman, the survivor at the center of the 2012 Maryville, Missouri, rape case and whose story was later featured in the Netflix documentary Audrie & Daisy, died by suicide on Tuesday evening. She was 23 years old.

Damn, this is incredibly depressing.
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https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/ne...was-84-1306078

Billy Goldenberg, the Emmy-winning composer who collaborated with Elvis Presley, Barbra Streisand and Diana Ross, wrote the theme songs for Kojak and Rhoda and provided music for Queen of the Stardust Ballroom, Helter Skelter and Steven Spielberg's Duel, has died. He was 84.

Goldenberg died Monday in his Manhattan apartment, friend and screenwriter Gary Gerani, who is doing a documentary about the composer, told The Hollywood Reporter.
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