anyone else notice????

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re-read issue 223 last night. It re-tells the origin of the Guardians.
I'm starting to think maybe they aren't as good intentioned as we think.
in the issue there's a passage that reads
"..and a small group of menatlly advanced Oans, who had devoted their lives to the cause of JUSTICE turned their thoughts to LIVING agents...but this small group was uniformly MALE..."
here's the part that got me:
"...and the WOMEN(zamarons) and CHILDREN of Oa(the children of the white lobe?!!?)..as well as males whose interests lay ELSEWHERE, grew increasingly ESTRANGED from them...."

it set me to wondering if the masters of the other colored batteries could be
other factions of Oans who disagreed with the Guardians point of view. In the issue I got a feeling the Guardians were zealots so focused on justice/order in the universe they kinda lost themselves and their connection to other Maltusians. it wouldn't take much for them to be portrayed as some sort of
fanatics in their beliefs who do what they think is right no matter what the repercussions in their pursuit of justice/order in the universe(think this sounds like al Qaeda anyone?)

anyone got any thought/opinions on this?

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re-read issue 223 last night. It re-tells the origin of the Guardians.
I'm starting to think maybe they aren't as good intentioned as we think.
in the issue there's a passage that reads
"..and a small group of menatlly advanced Oans, who had devoted their lives to the cause of JUSTICE turned their thoughts to LIVING agents...but this small group was uniformly MALE..."
here's the part that got me:
"...and the WOMEN(zamarons) and CHILDREN of Oa(the children of the white lobe?!!?)..as well as males whose interests lay ELSEWHERE, grew increasingly ESTRANGED from them...."

it set me to wondering if the masters of the other colored batteries could be
other factions of Oans who disagreed with the Guardians point of view. In the issue I got a feeling the Guardians were zealots so focused on justice/order in the universe they kinda lost themselves and their connection to other Maltusians. it wouldn't take much for them to be portrayed as some sort of
fanatics in their beliefs who do what they think is right no matter what the repercussions in their pursuit of justice/order in the universe(think this sounds like al Qaeda anyone?)

anyone got any thought/opinions on this?

Well, we have been regaled with tales of various Malthusian offshoots for years now, so it wouldn't surprise me if they did it again, though if so, I expect it to contradict much of what has been previously established on that score.

Anybody got a full list of Malthusian offshoot races/organizations/individuals that we have discovered over the years?

I'm thinking of:

Zamarons
Controllers
Krona
the family from Ganthet's Tale (I'm not even going to TRY to spell those folks' names without the comic in front of me)
Percival's race (also from Ganthet's Tale)
The evil folks that were locked away in another dimension in "JLA:Gatekeeper" (a truly putrid miniseries from a while back)
and of course, the Malthusians that still remain on Malthus

any others?

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forgot about the controllers--
also anyone notice the alpha lanterns seem to have little regard for life.
Boodikka tosses Graf Toren away in the latest GLC iss. when he questions her, and she basically threatens Harvid. Who better to serve the "zealots"
than lanterns who " never need to rest recharge or show remorse for what we ask them to do"(anyone else thinks this sounds like a suicide bomber?)
creepy little blue guys...very creepy

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Hmm, interesting theory...

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Of course, there was no Oans or Oan-splinters behind the Sinestro/Yellow Lantern Corps.

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No, but Sinestro ties into the GL's pretty well. Plus there is a connection between Monty and Krona, and in CoIE where the Guardians were taken out of commission. So not completely unrelated if you reach a little bit.

Still tho, we know the Zam's will be the Love Corps, and your theory on the Controllers being Hate Corps still has me convinced.

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CHILDREN????

People do tend to forget...in the 1980s, at the end of voume 2 and after Crisis...the Guardians (who were all men) LEFT the universe to be with the Zamoran and have children.

We even saw this during one of the crappy Milenium crossovers.


Superman and Hal located the Guardians....as we saw the short bald blue guys floating nakid with hot tall nakid zamorans (who had the bigger mid life Crisis, Engelhart or Byrne, is up in the air)

Still the Guardians were off there making babies. 2 returned for Milenium to set up the crappy NEW GUARDIANS.

The Guardians did return in voume 3 when Hal called for help when the Old Timer went insane. And this had reprecussions. Still...we never did find out ifthey finished making babies.

kyle resurrected the guardians...and made some female for some reason?

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EEEEEEWWW! SMURFS AND INTERGALACTIC "WONDER WOMEN"!

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I see that cover and I imagine Hal screaming at Clark, "Get off my kool-aid, boyscout!"

[Fearless Agent Orange Find all posts View Profile Close Fearless]

Funny, I thought that Katma Tui was thinkin' the same thing...

[Parrylakks Neko Samurai Find all posts View Profile Close Parrylakks]

... poor Clark.

[Fearless Agent Orange Find all posts View Profile Close Fearless]

Really.

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EEEEEEWWW! SMURFS AND INTERGALACTIC "WONDER WOMEN"!

Has anyone wondered if there was a conection between wonderwoman and the amazons with the zamerons? zamerons (however you spell it) think there leader or queen is a dark haired human female...and the got the greek armor going on...maybe its some weird time travel story thats not told yet where the encounter WW and she inspires them or something...then they twist it over the millenia,,,?

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Hmm, possibly. I didn't think my post was gonna inspire a thought of time-travel, but it's all good.

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Of course, there was no Oans or Oan-splinters behind the Sinestro/Yellow Lantern Corps.

While I don't think it will ever be brought up in the comics from what I have read Sinestro himself could be part Malthusian as the Zamorans went to Korugar and took lovers at one point in time so it's not a far streach of the imagination that they also had children with them.