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Old 04-12-2010, 06:14 AM   #51
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Loved the new episode. I can see that they're not going to let his carefree center overlook his tense persona.

Looking forward to more!
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Old 04-12-2010, 06:37 AM   #52
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I still think Tennant may pop in again during the Smith run. Don't forget, the 10th doctor is not entirely dead. The parallel universe doctor is still alive. And I could see all kind of strange events playing out in that universe if they wanted, and possibly bringing Tennant back over from that universe. But on the whole, I love the new doctor, the fish fingers in custard bit killed me.
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Old 04-12-2010, 07:07 PM   #53
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I still think Tennant may pop in again during the Smith run. Don't forget, the 10th doctor is not entirely dead. The parallel universe doctor is still alive. And I could see all kind of strange events playing out in that universe if they wanted, and possibly bringing Tennant back over from that universe. But on the whole, I love the new doctor, the fish fingers in custard bit killed me.
As nice a premise as that sounds, I really dont think bringing Tennant back in the first two seasons of Smith's run would be a wise gambit on the BBC's part: Tennant would kinda steal the limelight if they werent careful.
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As nice a premise as that sounds, I really dont think bringing Tennant back in the first two seasons of Smith's run would be a wise gambit on the BBC's part: Tennant would kinda steal the limelight if they werent careful.
It would have to be a few seasons out. What would be really interesting, is if the clone hybrid doctor from this universe, who ended up in universe b, managed to use his tardis, the one from the coral he got that grows at an accelerated rate, and met up with the actual doctor from universe b. Then using the power of two tardis was able to send the clone hybrid universe a doctor back to universe a. (breathes deep) Then you have the posibility of the hybrid clone doctor from a, the tennant doctor from b, and matt smith all meeting up with a previous temporal version of the tennant doctor. So 3 tennants and a smith? Or the two doctors coming from universe b could meet up with the humanized tennant a la the chameleon arch, along with matt smith. Then you have 3 tennants, one of which is a smith, and matt smith, so 2 tennants and 2 smiths? I think i've lost it.
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Awful totally awful.

Just watched the two new episode and Im not liking it all, the 2nd episode was really bad and made no real sense at all.

And Lord have mercy the fucking Daleks Again.... really? they have truly run out of ideas, dont get me wrong I love me some Daleks, but enough is enough, Im sick of seeing them regenerate again and again, their story is over.

Its no wonder Tennant Left he knew it was better to leave on a high rather than low, I just feel Doctor Who has gone as far as it can, especially after watching the first two episode, the stories are very lacking.

Im going to watch 3 more and see if it improves, if not its another show I will stop watching.

The one plus I will give is the new girl, shes hot all right.
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Old 04-12-2010, 09:57 PM   #56
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It would have to be a few seasons out. What would be really interesting, is if the clone hybrid doctor from this universe, who ended up in universe b, managed to use his tardis, the one from the coral he got that grows at an accelerated rate, and met up with the actual doctor from universe b. Then using the power of two tardis was able to send the clone hybrid universe a doctor back to universe a. (breathes deep) Then you have the posibility of the hybrid clone doctor from a, the tennant doctor from b, and matt smith all meeting up with a previous temporal version of the tennant doctor. So 3 tennants and a smith? Or the two doctors coming from universe b could meet up with the humanized tennant a la the chameleon arch, along with matt smith. Then you have 3 tennants, one of which is a smith, and matt smith, so 2 tennants and 2 smiths? I think i've lost it.
Hahah, Wow. Try explaining that to the average fan :P
I think a children in need charity special episode (usually more lighthearted and fan servicey, see Peter Davidson/tennant Time crash) with Eccleston Tennant and Smith would be REALLY nice, just a little episode nothing big just the three of them maybye meeting up and showing how each individual would solve the problem they are facing!
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I still think Tennant may pop in again during the Smith run. Don't forget, the 10th doctor is not entirely dead. The parallel universe doctor is still alive. And I could see all kind of strange events playing out in that universe if they wanted, and possibly bringing Tennant back over from that universe. But on the whole, I love the new doctor, the fish fingers in custard bit killed me.
This was actually done in the books and comics... with the 10.5 Doctor coming back under the name of the Valeyard, which was actually forshadowed previously in the 6th Doctor's seasons...

In the books, the Valeyard (10.5 or Metacrisis Doctor, whatever you want to call him) went evil after Rose left him so he came back to the normal universe to claim his regenerations back and get his old life back...

The Valeyard was used quite a bit in the past and was said to be a botched regeneration somewhere between the 10th and 13th Regeneration... though whether this is canon with all the timeline changes, including the Time War and the destruction of Gallifrey, is pretty unknown at this point... but it would be awesome to use

About the current season though... my major question this season is "What is Amy Pond?!?"

in all honesty, i don't think she's human... I think she's a Time Lord left over from the war or one hiding on earth using a Chameleon Circuit...

Too many things about her aren't adding up... like in tonight's episode, the computer downloaded about 300 years or so of history directly into her brain to help her make an 'informed choice'... that's not something a 21st century human brain could handle... as has been previously noted in Doctor Who with the humans using cybernetic chips to handle information in their brain and Donna's brain overloading from the metacrisis...

Little things as well don't add up... like her saying she's always dreamed of space and time travel... how she accepted the TARDIS without any comment of how it was bigger on the inside... basic Time Lord technology that she's just accepting when normal humans would be questioning it...

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how she accepted the TARDIS without any comment of how it was bigger on the inside... basic Time Lord technology that she's just accepting when normal humans would be questioning it...
That caught me off guard as well. I was waiting for the "But.... but... it's bigger on the inside"
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It would have to be a few seasons out. What would be really interesting, is if the clone hybrid doctor from this universe, who ended up in universe b, managed to use his tardis, the one from the coral he got that grows at an accelerated rate, and met up with the actual doctor from universe b. Then using the power of two tardis was able to send the clone hybrid universe a doctor back to universe a. (breathes deep) Then you have the posibility of the hybrid clone doctor from a, the tennant doctor from b, and matt smith all meeting up with a previous temporal version of the tennant doctor. So 3 tennants and a smith? Or the two doctors coming from universe b could meet up with the humanized tennant a la the chameleon arch, along with matt smith. Then you have 3 tennants, one of which is a smith, and matt smith, so 2 tennants and 2 smiths? I think i've lost it.
I'm surprised I understood all that.

Also, it would be awesome if Amy was Romana or something. Or maybe The Woman from End of Time (The Doctor's Mother?) seeing as that storyline seemed to go nowhere...
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Old 04-13-2010, 08:18 AM   #61
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If Amy turned out to be Romana, then it would be proof enough that Moffat is god...

As for anything to do with The Doctor's mother or the End of Time storyline... i think that got slated be enough fans that Moffat knows to stay as far as humanly possible away from it lol

Time Lords don't breed genetically, this was covered several times in the series... it's more of a genetic Lomb system... which is how The Doctor is sometimes referred to as The Other... its an important part of Doctor Who mythology

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If Amy turned out to be Romana, then it would be proof enough that Moffat is god...

As for anything to do with The Doctor's mother or the End of Time storyline... i think that got slated be enough fans that Moffat knows to stay as far as humanly possible away from it lol

Time Lords don't breed genetically, this was covered several times in the series... it's more of a genetic Lomb system... which is how The Doctor is sometimes referred to as The Other... its an important part of Doctor Who mythology

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Do you think maybe Romana escaped the time lock and used a chameleon arch to become Amy Pond? If so, maybe we should keep an eye out for a pocket watch.
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Not just a pocket watch, it can be anything can't it?
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It would have to be a few seasons out. What would be really interesting, is if the clone hybrid doctor from this universe, who ended up in universe b, managed to use his tardis, the one from the coral he got that grows at an accelerated rate, and met up with the actual doctor from universe b. Then using the power of two tardis was able to send the clone hybrid universe a doctor back to universe a. (breathes deep) Then you have the posibility of the hybrid clone doctor from a, the tennant doctor from b, and matt smith all meeting up with a previous temporal version of the tennant doctor. So 3 tennants and a smith? Or the two doctors coming from universe b could meet up with the humanized tennant a la the chameleon arch, along with matt smith. Then you have 3 tennants, one of which is a smith, and matt smith, so 2 tennants and 2 smiths? I think i've lost it.
Flaw 1 = You assume in the alternate universe that the Doctor has lost the same amount of lives as he did in the actual universe... which is always a mistake.

Flaw 2 = The 8th Doctor was told that he had three different 9th personas within him, trying to get out. While Eccleston is the one that found its way through regeneration to this universe, we do have a semi-canon story featuring a different 9th Doctor, who has been dubbed by fans as the "Shalka Doctor," because of the OFFICIAL story he was featured in. Thus the 10th regeneration would have the capability of being COMPLETELY different from Tennent in every way... Hell, he could even be ginger.

So yeah. Nice try, though.
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Flaw 1 = You assume in the alternate universe that the Doctor has lost the same amount of lives as he did in the actual universe... which is always a mistake.

Flaw 2 = The 8th Doctor was told that he had three different 9th personas within him, trying to get out. While Eccleston is the one that found its way through regeneration to this universe, we do have a semi-canon story featuring a different 9th Doctor, who has been dubbed by fans as the "Shalka Doctor," because of the OFFICIAL story he was featured in. Thus the 10th regeneration would have the capability of being COMPLETELY different from Tennent in every way... Hell, he could even be ginger.

So yeah. Nice try, though.
Flaw 1 = You assume that the doctor hasn't lost the same amount of lives, this is an unknown.

Flaw 2 = You assume that the same persona did not come out as in this universe.

Flaw 3 = None of this was meant to be serious.

So yeah. Nice try though.
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Flaw #ONLY with your above post.

Your flaws didn't point out any flaws with the flaws I pointed out, and actually displayed a misunderstanding on your side of the first flaw, which presented an unknown, not a fact, and thus only reaffirmed their aspects of the complete unknown that initiially flawed your assumptions in the first place.
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Maybe that's what the crack is. A crack in space in time through which she escaped.

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I think it has to be a pocket watch, but I'm not sure
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You mean Lady President Romana? This will have nothing to do with her or E-Space, as that has already been done. As for her fate, she was Lady President when the Last Great Time War started, and attempted to make a treaty wit hteh Daleks to preserve their races... buit the results of said treaty are unclear, as is her fate. We know that while the Time Lords pulled their fallen back to fight (which is how The Master returned, as you will recall), that Rassilon was again made Lord President, but Romana's fate was never really mentioned outside ofa singel sentence uttered by the Doctor, himself.

"Things went well for Romana... until the Time War."
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Well, The Doctor obviously would only know that Romana disappeared or something. So it's totally possible that she disappeared through a crack and regenerated into a young Amy Pond, Chameleon Arch, etc, but it's definitely possible that Amy is Romana. And maybe she activates the Arch and becomes more like a Time War Romana, like how the Master was all nice and stuff as Yana, but then he opened the Chameleon Arch and was all... well... Master... Also, John Simm was awesome.

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I'm still waiting to see the new series.... the suspense is killing me!!!
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The New episode (Daleks and Churchill) was very entertaining, a nice setting and a very good performance by Smith
The Dalek ship however, looked a bit... Low rent? Like they hadnt even bothered to decorate the room it was in, just stuck a few consoles in a sound stage.
What's everyone thoughts on the new Daleks?
I'd hate to be the yellow one! And how do we think they will tie in to the rest of the series?

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My thoughts are first GL becomes Power Rangers, and now Doctor Who does the same, no doubt the new Rainbow Daleks will be the main focus of next season, I doubt we will see them again till near the end of this season.

After a Reality Bomb you really have to wonder what else they could possible do, like the AM in DCU they have become an empty threat.

Im still pissed that they brought them back, they should be trying new things.

Also Yes the set of the ship was cheap as hell, you would think the BBC prime show for saturdays would get a bigger budget, its not the first time ive laughed at their 80s sets.

Theirs defently something up with pond shes solving all the problems if you noticed, its another re hash of Donna arc without the comedy.
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..................................... ok it was a good episode............................. very good in fact.......................... oh and the new Doctor wasn't bad ether
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absolutley loved the new doc.
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