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It's almost as if putting effort into decent storytelling brings in, and keeps, readers.
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Lord knows Marvel and DC haven't tried it in a decade.
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Common sense should tell anyone that gratuitously replacing a popular comics character with a minority member who nobody asked for, as an exercise in virtue signaling, will be bad for your business. How could it not be?
This ain't 1939. It's next to impossible to get major new super-heroes over now, even legacy characters.Last edited by Trey Strain; 04-26-2017, 08:59 PM.Comment
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Marvel's comics sales would really be in the toilet if it hadn't acquired the Star Wars rights. DC's sales are up, but almost solely because of the twice-monthly publishing, and you're welcome for that idea, DC.
This is just not an industry that's going to grow any more. It's like landlines. It's not about to go away, but the comics companies can't just say, "We're going to sell this particular thing that we want to sell," and then somehow it's going to happen. They're limited as to what people will buy.
People will eagerly buy certain comics that are way over, like Batman and Star Wars, but the days when selling comics was like shooting fish in a barrel are long gone.Comment
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A good question to ask yourself is, are you selling what you want to sell, or are you selling what people will buy? Sometimes they're the same thing, but sometimes they're not.
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Jason Whitlock tweeted something similar about yesterday's mass layoffs at ESPN.
Jason Whitlock ✔ @WhitlockJason
When you pursue a political agenda rather than a business agenda and people lose their jobs, remember: No One Is To Blame.
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Yo.
I don't think that in & of itself is bad for business; I think the problem lies with the extent to which Marvel has done so.Originally posted by Trey Strain View Post
IM - changed & swapped
FF - gone
Wolverine - changed AND gone AND swapped
Cap - changed
Thor - changed & swapped
Hulk - gone AND changed AND swapped
that's ALOT, and in a small amount of time too. :/
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Yeah dude... because Marvel wasn't doing that for the last couple years with titles like Amazing Spiderman. It was your own completely original idea. Man...Originally posted by Trey Strain View Post
I fail to see how one person can be so full of themselves and think they know EVERYTHING about comics, movies, and marketing when they've never had a comic published, been involved in a major motion picture, etc. You state your opinions like they're facts, and its social media sites looking at pissed off fans [who probably only buys 2-4 comics a month IF that] like yourself when they're writing all these 'Diversity Killed Marvel' stories. Over one hundred new titles in the last 2-3 years and only a third were about minorities. One could also see that as "White Characters Don't Sell" at Marvel, but no... let's keep on giving them shit because they're trying to give more people heroes they can relate to.
You wanna know what killed Marvel? And I won't even copy/paste the response from earlier cause I can go a little deeper.... and as much as you claim I'm on ignore I know you still log off and check the forums and up the views on shit like your fanfic. So read on, ya might learn something old man.
* Giving Brian Michael Bendis any title he wants, no matter what idiocy he had planned... and that involves so many characters getting shit on...
* The Patchwork Planet that would NEVER go over as well as a standard Earth. Imagine half your family dying, then reappearing but altered to some degree. Imagine the governments losing their shit because all of the political factions are in shambles. What about currency, is it all the same? Do people with 616 currency think everything from the 1610 is counterfeit?
* New events starting before the ending of the previous event. And events in general.
* Marvel thinking 6 or 7 Deadpool titles will sell as well or better than the *main* Deadpool book.
* Pushing characters like Squirrel Girl when DOZENS of others deserve a little limelight. If Black Knight's series got half the push Squirrel Girl gets he'd still have an ongoing title right now.
* Not publishing GOOD X-titles or F4 titles to spite Fox and handicapping a good fraction of their universe. Now we're stuck with this super shitty X-Men universe that's as unrecognizable as Sir Patrick Stewart in drag [he makes a convincing old lady...]. And do they give Johnny or Ben ongoings? Nope, just spots on other teams...
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Its not working because nobody in their right mind is going to pay good money to be demonized in the process. There are ways to attract Minority customers without needing to demonize Whites [the majority of comic book buyers] Even IDW's M.A.S.K is terrible for it. The good guys are all Minorities [or People of Color is the newer expression] and the bad guys are all White. I can't even see an issue ever making it to print if this had been reversed.Originally posted by Trey Strain View PostComment
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I want them to TRY, just stop trying like someone has a gun pointed to their heads.Comment
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In chasing the unicorn of new customers, Marvel took a big huge shit all over its existing customers. That's never smart.
Of course we're seeing something along those lines in Green Lantern too, and with the same result.Last edited by Trey Strain; 06-29-2017, 01:02 PM.Comment
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That's still just one guys opinion based on recent news and youtube videos. The writer even mentions towards the end...
"Marvel may be actively stopping its progressive SJW campaign or probably not, but it’s clear that its attempting to go back to basics like DC."
Out of something like 100+ new comic series from Marvel the last three years, only around 30-35 of them had gender/racial/sexuality swapped characters. The rest of the comics still featured Caucasian leads and the majority of them still bombed. Marvel just doesn't know what to do with its comics at all anymore.
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Why are you bothering with someone whose proven himself to be a dishonest debater?Originally posted by -//V\\- View Post
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