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Old 05-01-2017, 12:58 PM   #76
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But as long as they don't do something goofy like that with it, a series bible for each title would be an excellent idea.
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Old 05-15-2017, 08:39 PM   #77
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Something else that needs to go is the provision that a power ring would automatically protect its wearer against a fatal attack. Because if it could do that, then it should automatically protect its wearer against any sort of attack.
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Something else that needs to go is the provision that a power ring would automatically protect its wearer against a fatal attack. Because if it could do that, then it should automatically protect its wearer against any sort of attack.
I never liked that, either, because I thought it was too much of a cop out. The only times I recall it consistently popping up and being a thing were in Steve Englehart's run. But, of course, I could be wrong. I don't think that ability has been used in recent histtoy... well... at all. Has it?
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Old 05-15-2017, 09:03 PM   #79
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Something else that needs to go is the provision that a power ring would automatically protect its wearer against a fatal attack. Because if it could do that, then it should automatically protect its wearer against any sort of attack.
I agree with that. Other than the concept of a minimum of power for life support when the ring goes dry.
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Old 05-19-2017, 11:55 AM   #80
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My reboot:

Publish an eight-part mini that shows the four Earth Lanterns (not six of them) getting their rings at the same time.

On the same month that the fifth issue of the mini is published, launch an Earth-based title starring Hal and a space-based title starring Guy, and also start using John in JLA and Kyle in Titans or Teen Titans. Say that "a few years" have passed since the Lanterns got their rings, but not a specific period of time. Strict timelines only cause headaches.
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Old 05-19-2017, 01:36 PM   #81
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Your reboot? Did you get hired by DC or something?
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Old 05-19-2017, 01:46 PM   #82
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Your reboot? Did you get hired by DC or something?
They probably couldn't afford me. That's how I'd reboot it.
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When I was young one of my dream jobs was to work for DC and pencil Green Lantern for a living. Now I couldn't imagine working for such a company. And I make a lot more money than they would ever pay me.
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I'd write the *^%$*^% out of whatever character or concept DC wanted to hand me. Never have I once thought I was *too good* or *too expensive* for them.

Giving all the Lanterns their rings at once reminds me too much of Captain Planet.

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I see a post by Mr. M there. I suppose he's trolling me, as usual. I loom large in his thoughts, which is a position I've never sought and which surprises me. But anyway, I started a thread at CBR last year questioning whether the DCU should even have a timeline. Most people hadn't even thought about it, but there was already quite a bit of opposition to the whole idea of one. Check it out:

http://community.comicbookresources....ave-a-timeline
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Old 05-19-2017, 02:31 PM   #86
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When I was young one of my dream jobs was to work for DC and pencil Green Lantern for a living. Now I couldn't imagine working for such a company. And I make a lot more money than they would ever pay me.
I doubt I'm as rich as you are. I don't own a new pickup. But I like a low-stress existence.
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When I was young working for a comic book publisher sounded good. On my own with nobody to support, I could live by myself or get a roommate, crash on a couch, and just draw comics to get by. But then I got married and had kids and had to think about someone other than myself. I needed to support a family, provide insurance, a good home, all of that. And that wasn't happening as a freelance artist with no health insurance.

That's how frivolous dreams die. You have to grow up and join the real world. Now DC is such a wretched company that all of their talented writers and artists have all fled for greener pastures because they hated working for them. Even if money wasn't a concern I would never work for them because I know I would be miserable there being part of the product they churn out now.
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I don't agree that DC is a wretched company, Certainly it's as good as Marvel to work for, and probably better. But for a writer, Image seems to be the place to go. You'd make just as much money there as DC or Marvel would pay you, and you'd be left alone as long as you could sell your comic.
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Both DC and Marvel are wretched, and bankrupt of ideas. They create soulless, corporately driven comics with little remaining entertainment value. Their best days creatively are well behind them.

And yeah, Image is the place to be if you want to be free to tell good stories and make great comics.
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I see a post by Mr. M there. I suppose he's trolling me, as usual. I loom large in his thoughts, which is a position I've never sought and which surprises me. But anyway, I started a thread at CBR last year questioning whether the DCU should even have a timeline. Most people hadn't even thought about it, but there was already quite a bit of opposition to the whole idea of one. Check it out:

http://community.comicbookresources....ave-a-timeline
Conceded much? LMAO

I forgot, anybody who's not a fan of your ideas is a troll.

When you make two dozen threads in a month's time, it's hard not to cross your path or have one conversation bleed into another thread. If anybody's a troll, it's you sir.

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Old 05-19-2017, 03:26 PM   #91
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Both DC and Marvel are wretched, and bankrupt of ideas. They create soulless, corporately driven comics with little remaining entertainment value. Their best days creatively are well behind them.

And yeah, Image is the place to be if you want to be free to tell good stories and make great comics.
I blame most of the creative decline in DC and Marvel on two factors.

First, it's the central planning that's become de rigueur in both companies. As in, "Congratulations That's a great story you're telling there. But you've got to work this huge cosmic event into it somehow."

Common sense should tell anyone that that practice produces poor stories.

The second factor is the diversity imperative. How many problems has this caused for DC and Marvel? It would be a huge task even to think of them all and list them. The financial damage from it would be hard to overestimate.

I think the diversity imperative has been sort of like Hillary Clinton. As in, it was unavoidable. It had to happen. And its failure was also unavoidable. It had to happen. The question is, are the people who pushed the diversity imperative and the people who pushed Hillary Clinton going to move on now? I don't think either group will readily do that.
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The decline for both companies started long before this diversity fad happened. That's just another thing to roll eyes over, but not part of the big picture.

I think big picture, things started to go downhill when the parent companies started taking more direct control of the companies. For DC, it's when WB made Dark Knight and breathlessly realized what the little company they bought in the 70s could mean to them going forward. For Marvel it was being bought by Disney and getting their movies off the ground. Once a parent company takes an active interest in your day to day operations it has an effect on your actual product...like say, moving your base of operations from NYC to California so they can keep a closer eye on you.

Who wants to go to DC or Marvel to give them great ideas when they can put out what they want at someone like Image? Would a comic like Saga happen at DC or Marvel? I don't blame any of the writers and artists for GTFO of Dodge.
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Who wants to go to DC or Marvel to give them great ideas when they can put out what they want at someone like Image? Would a comic like Saga happen at DC or Marvel? I don't blame any of the writers and artists for GTFO of Dodge.
Nothing like creating or co-creating a character and getting no royalties when it's used by the Company to make millions.
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That's why the writers keep using the same worn-out handful of villains. If they create new ones, DC or Marvel will own them.
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I would personally never get into comics to just be a penciller or a writer. If you can get regular work as a penciller you can make about $3200 a month, and that's without being a rockstar penciller. Which, depending on your situation, isn't terrible, I guess. The trick is you have to keep that regular work coming in, and while that may last for a while if you're good/lucky/well connected, think of all the people over time we never (or hardly ever) hear about anymore... like... oh... M.D. Bright... or Pat Broderick, or even Daryl Banks.

The smart thing to do is own property, like Robert Kirkman. When you actually own the stuff you're working on, then the sky is the limit with what you can do with it and where you can go with it. Of course, that's not a sure path to success, but I'd be a lot more willing to put a lot of effort into that than drawing books for other people, which will usually only get you so far in the long run.

But getting in comics just to work for DC and Marvel? Nah. Forget that. Breaking into that business is already hard enough. I wouldn't work toward that just to slave for them.

Trey Strain, if you're really serious about writing, I suggest you use your creative energies toward something of your own rather than think of ways to make Green Lantern work (for you). I used to be into writing and drawing Green Lantern comics, too... until I realized Green Lantern is DC's mess and responsibility, and why would I want to work on that when I could just make something I like even more, which would (I think) be a much more productive and beneficial use of my time and effort in the long run.

Let's say that DC actually does take some of your ideas for Green Lantern. All that's going to happen is some other people will profit off of them, you will get no credit, and when you bring it up on message boards, you'll just get ridiculed for being presumptuous. So, from my perspective... I don't see the point in bothering with any of that.

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I would personally never get into comics to just be a penciller or a writer. If you can get regular work as a penciller you can make about $3200 a month, and that's without being a rockstar penciller. Which, depending on your situation, isn't terrible, I guess. The trick is you have to keep that regular work coming in, and while that may last for a while if you're good/lucky/well connected, think of all the people over time we never (or hardly ever) hear about anymore... like... oh... M.D. Bright... or Pat Broderick, or even Daryl Banks.

The smart thing to do is own property, like Robert Kirkman. When you actually own the stuff you're working on, then the sky is the limit with what you can do with it and where you can go with it. Of course, that's not a sure path to success, but I'd be a lot more willing to put a lot of effort into that than drawing books for other people, which will usually only get you so far in the long run.

But getting in comics just to work for DC and Marvel? Nah. Forget that. Breaking into that business is already hard enough. I wouldn't work toward that just to slave for them.

Trey Strain, if you're really serious about writing, I suggest you use your creative energies toward something of your own rather than think of ways to make Green Lantern work (for you). I used to be into writing and drawing Green Lantern comics, too... until I realized Green Lantern is DC's mess and responsibility, and why would I want to work on that when I could just make something I like even more, which would (I think) be a much more productive and beneficial use of my time and effort in the long run.

Let's say that DC actually does take some of your ideas for Green Lantern. All that's going to happen is some other people will profit off of them, you will get no credit, and when you bring it up on message boards, you'll just get ridiculed for being presumptuous. So, from my perspective... I don't see the point in bothering with any of that.
I was a big fan of Banks. I think he was the main factor that sold Kyle's comic. I don't remember what happened but I believe he had a falling out with someone at DC. I was an even bigger fan of Broderick, but I suppose that some people at DC found his style too idiosyncratic. I certainly didn't. The last I heard he was doing some sort of commercial art, and probably making more money than he did in comics.

DC has profited from my ideas, most lucratively by going to bimonthly publishing. And I'm glad they have. I didn't like it that Marvel had been drubbing them so badly for half a century, and I wanted to even up the competition. Marvel could have done the same thing but they didn't want to look like they were copying DC, so they just launched a lot of new titles with their star characters. That was a bad counter-move. Now DC and Marvel are running neck-and-neck in comics sales.

I do have other writing projects going on besides the ones I've posted online. I write Green Lantern stories to keep my blades sharp. And I can use those plots elsewhere.

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Yadda, yadda, Dave. I know. DC didn't get that idea from me. After their not thinking of it for 50 years, they suddenly and miraculously thought it at exactly the same time I did. Sure they did.

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As a matter of fact, if you took away Star Wars, DC would be drubbing Marvel in comics sales now.

And just wait till DC brings the JSA to the present, which I also thought of. My ideas for a Flash team title and a Charlton team title probably won't be far behind.
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And just wait till DC brings the JSA to the present, which I also thought of. My ideas for a Flash team title and a Charlton team title probably won't be far behind.

That's dipped in gold right there.
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That's dipped in gold right there.
It's as if none of the JSA books since the 90's have been on his radar, or that LAW mini series with the Charlton characters [that he's brought up before I thought..?]...

I'm calling it, dude's got dementia. Bet he doesn't even know what year it is LOL

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