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Old 11-25-2016, 03:26 AM   #1826
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One down and one to go, basically. Getting the timeline back in order will now be a priority, and once that's done, smooth sailing.
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Old 11-28-2016, 11:17 PM   #1827
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So Kitty is the leader in X-Men Gold probably and I was gonna pick it up until I saw who's writing it

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Marvel Comics recently teased the return of X-Men: Gold and X-Men: Blue, two team comic books using the colored code names from the ‘90s when the mutants were at peak popularity. We have your first look at a ton of new information on both books including the creative duos, the team lineups, the cover art, and the concept of each book.

X-Men: Gold and X-Men: Blue are launching in April 2017 as part of Marvel's wave of "ResurrXion" titles that spin out of the upcoming Inhumans vs. X-Men event. Both books will ship twice per month.
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X-Men: Gold will be written by Marc Guggenheim with art by Ardian Syaf. The phase-shifting Kitty Pryde at long-last will become an X-Men team leader, whose squad includes Storm, Colossus, Nightcrawler, Old Man Logan, and Rachel Grey.

“Kitty is the right person to bring the X-Men into the future, to herald in the next era of the X-Men,” Guggenheim told us in a phone interview. “We are post the war with the Inhumans. The X-Men are sort of at a crossroads. They're at a point where they are trying to decide, is there a future for the X-Men? And Kitty is very much of the mindset that there is a future for the X-Men and it's a bright future. That there's more work that the X-Men still have to do. Not just for mutants, but really for humanity. What Kitty's leadership does from a storytelling perspective is that it really positions the book for its mission statement, which is we really want to tell stories that get back to the idea of just the X-Men as superheroes. Not all of the stories that we're doing are based on mutants or the problems of mutants or the conflict with the Inhumans. It's very much a team superhero book.”

Storm is the current leader of the main X-Men team in Extraordinary X-Men, and while this may seem like a demotion of sorts, it turns out that it’s actually her idea for Kitty to be the new leader. Inhumans vs. X-Men will have some big shake-ups that set up Gold and Blue, and that's where we'll be looking to find out Storm's reasoning for passing the baton to Kitty.

Guggenheim is best known as co-showrunner and writer on The CW's Arrow and Legends of Tomorrow and previously worked on the adjectiveless X-Men book in 2014 featuring an all-female cast of characters. Syaf worked for years as a DC-exclusive artist, launching The New 52 Batgirl series with writer Gail Simone, drawing an arc of Green Lantern Corps, and doing work on various other DC comics. He has dabbled in the X-Men once before when he drew X-Men: Manifest Destiny - Nightcrawler #1.

While details on the book’s story are minimal, we know that Kitty will be returning from her adventures with the Guardians of the Galaxy to help the X-Men rebound after their war with the Inhumans. The first big threat they will face will be a new Brotherhood of Evil Mutants with members that Guggenheim says ought to surprise readers.

“There's more going on here than just another new Brotherhood of Evil Mutants, the umpteenth iteration. … One of the things that I wanted to get back to and really sort of drill down is what does it mean to be a mutant in the 21st century, in a world where you've got Inhumans and you've had mutants for all this time and you've had M-Pox and Genosha and all the things that have happened to mutants throughout the years. Why does this racism still exist? In fact, the very first page sort of sets out my anti-mutant treatise. I really tried to put on my racism hat and justify hatred of mutants for the 21st century. And the brotherhood really plays into that,” Guggenheim said.

Rachel Grey will be getting a big superhero makeover with a new costume and new codename, Prestige.

“She was Marvel Girl, then she was Pheonix, she was often times less Rachel Grey and more Jean Grey. And I had this idea, wouldn't it be fun to take an X-Men and give them a new identity, kind of like the way Chris Claremont did with Carol Danvers and making her Binary many years ago? I thought that was kind of intriguing,” Guggenheim explained. “As I thought about that, I started thinking about that idea in connection with Rachel and the notion that if there was any character who needed to adopt a new identity, that was forward thinking, that wasn't about her legacy or her family, it was Rachel. And I think in many ways Rachel represents this mission statement that Kitty has given the X-Men, which is let's not look backwards, let's look forwards.”

While the X-Men’s Gold and Blue teams have their own books, both mutant groups will be operating out of the same headquarters and we’ll see members of both teams appears in both books.
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X-Men: Blue will be written by Cullen Bunn with art by Jorge Molina. The roster will consist of the five original, time-displaced X-Men: leader Jean Grey, Cyclops, Iceman, Beast and Angel. The twist? With Professor X dead, their mentor will be the greatest enemy of their time, Magneto.

This comes as no surprise to those following Bunn’s work. He wrote a Magneto solo series and is currently writing Uncanny X-Men featuring a team led by the Master of Magnetism. Bunn made it clear that Magneto is not the star of X-Men: Blue like he was in those other books, but he has an important role to play none the less.

“He almost takes the role of a Professor Xavier for the original five here. That's really what I thought was interesting with putting him in the book is that Magneto is the oldest enemy of these X-Men. This was the first ‘evil mutant’ that they battled way back in X-Men #1. And now here he is taking on this mentor role with them,” Bunn said in a phone interview. “That immediately raises a lot of questions. Why would these X-Men be working with him? What is he trying to accomplish now? Do they feel that he's changed his ways? And that really is what I was excited about. It opened up a lot of really interesting questions for us. There's some mystery involved in terms of why the X-Men are working with him and what they're trying to accomplish. There's a little bit of intrigue there because knowing Magneto, you know he's got ulterior motives. He's Magneto. The original five X-Men aren't stupid. They know this. And maybe they have some ulterior motives of their own.”

It’s interesting to note that the X-Men of the present, along with us readers, have the benefit of watching Magneto evolve from straight-up evil terrorist to anti-hero to staunch ally of the X-Men (admittedly never without shades of gray), whereas the original X-Men only know him as the greatest opponent to Xavier’s dream of peaceful mutant/human coexistence.

Bunn currently has numerous monthly comics to his name and is known for writing villains and anti-heroes including Venom, Deadpool, Sinestro, and Lobo. There's also his indie hit The Sixth Gun published by Oni Press. Molina got his start doing design work for video games before getting published by the Big Two. He's done lots of work on Marvel's X-Men line, the all-female Avengers book A-Force, and most recently an arc on Star Wars with writer Jason Aaron.

The original X-Men were brought to the present by Beast in a last-ditch effort to get the present X-Men to change their self-destructive ways. During the Battle of the Atom event, it was revealed that, for reasons unknown, the team is unable to travel back to their original time, despite the untold amount of damage to the timeline they are probably causing. Bunn said that the threat of “time falling apart” will be back at the forefront in this book.

The team members will have different opinions on this matter, but Iceman most certainly does not want to go back. Last year the character came out as gay, and he was able to reconcile his sexaulity with his present self so they could finally live openly, so he doesn’t want to return to a time where he was forced to hide who he really is.

“For all this world's problems, it's a much more accepting culture for him,” Bunn said. “And he's kind of settled in. He's got a boyfriend now. He has a life here. Of all of them, he's probably embraced this world more than the others. He likes that he's at home here.”

This series will mark Jean Grey’s first time taking charge as a leader of the X-Men. Currently she is a member of Storm’s Extraordinary X-Men team, while the other original X-Men are on a roadtrip across the nation with Genesis, Oya, and Wolverine (Laura Kinney), but she’ll make the decision to re-assemble the team and step up as leader in the aftermath of Inhumans vs. X-Men.

“Jean is really the catalyst for bringing them all together. She gets this new team back together and Jean actually takes the leadership role. I kind of feel like readers of X-Men have always felt that Jean was supposed to be the leader of the team. And now Jean is definitely taking the leadership role in this group,” Bunn said.

We asked if the story would explore young Jean's relationship with the Phoenix Force, but Bunn declined to give comment. The teaser for the new Thanos series has the Phoenix symbol in his eyes, so perhaps that's where readers can look to see the fiery bird next. But come on, it's Jean Grey, a story with the Phoenix is inevitable.

As for the team’s first threat -- aside from having Magneto give them advice -- Bunn would only hint that they will first face off against what he considers one of “the best supervillain duos of all time.”
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Old 11-29-2016, 04:42 AM   #1829
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So Kitty is the leader in X-Men Gold probably and I was gonna pick it up until I saw who's writing it

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Yea, I'll be passing on both books, uninspired creative teams (love Bunn's indie stuff, hate his Big Two work) double shipping at $3.99? No thank you.
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Old 11-29-2016, 09:55 PM   #1830
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This nonsense right here is why I have stocked up on older issues reprinted in trades of late. Going to enjoy classic, quality work while the current lineup spins it wheels and requires another trip to the think tank.
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Old 11-29-2016, 11:49 PM   #1831
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Because you know... the last two books with these time displaced original five X-Men were just so incredibly well received they had to give them Cyclops back and ANOTHER series.

Can we please shift the focus back to the real modern day counterparts and quit wasting people's time/money/interest on this garbage? NONE of the stories featuring these characters have been that good, this run won't be any better, JUST GIVE US WHAT WE WANT.

You know what would sell better than the time displaced original 5? IDK... maybe a time displaced Wolverine that ISN'T an old man but a younger Wolverine? Since the real deal is dead and now we just have senior citizen Logan... just saying. Makes more sense to me anyway. Get the posterboy for mutant/X comics in the 90's back to what made him great. Get rid of all of this Hugh Jackman influenced leader-like Wolverine with a soft spot bullshit and let's get back to the badass he was meant to be.

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Though his ongoing series — the first ever for the original X-Man — was announced in mid-October, Marvel Comics has just now announced the creative team on “Iceman.”

Launching in Spring 2017 as part of Marvel’s ResurreXion initiative, Bobby Drake’s solo adventures will be scripted by Sina Grace, with art by Alessandro Vitti.

The creative team, announced via an interview with Nerdist, also included the first look at Issue #1’s cover, illustrated by series cover artist Kevin Wada.
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Iceman has appeared in numerous cartoons (including a starring role in the ’80s series “Spider-Man and His Amazing Friends) and feature films (played by Shawn Ashmore). Over fifty years after his debut, Iceman came out as gay in 2015’s “All-New X-Men” #40, making him one of Marvel’s most prominent LGBT characters — a fact that will be at the center of the new series’ focus on the hero.

“I think the tension of [Bobby recently coming out] is what makes this the most interesting and fun project to work on. Because it means that he’s been keeping something not only from his friends and colleagues, but also from himself,” Sina Grace told Nerdist. “And if you even just look at his powers, it’s always just sort of been there, for the entire history of the Marvel universe. And leaning into it makes working on the character and understanding all the decisions he’s made to date that much more fascinating. And what he does with that information moving forward is going to inform not only his personal life, but also how he sees himself as a hero.”

“[T]his part of his identity is going to effect the people around him, including some of his ex-girlfriends,” Grace continued, explaining that the fact that Bobby has dated women in the past will be explored. “Part of the story and the adventures he has moving forward include the space where he does have a very touching interaction with one of the ladies, and we might have some more sprinkled in when it’s organic to the book. But that’s something that everyone can relate to, when you’re holding onto something for a long time, and that decision can have an impact on everyone around him.”

Another aspect of Iceman the series will address is the fact that he’s an Omega Level mutant, one of the twelve most powerful mutants in the world — potentially.

“With this series, you’ll see how much knowing yourself and understanding yourself helps inform the scope of your abilities, both as a human being and also as a superhero,” Grace says. “We are gonna play with it to be sure, because this guy is an Omega Level mutant at the end of the day.”
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Still running the forced homosexuality into the ground, eh, Marvel? That was a terrible move having Grey do that, on so many levels, and this series won't do anything but validate it.
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Maybe no one has any good ideas to run the X franchise like Hickman did the Avengers...Maybe this simply is what Marvel has now.
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Part of me wants to believe Iceman is gay because of that one episode of Family Guy. It aggravates me this sort of thing has to happen to get Iceman a solo series, because lord knows fifty years of material and a fanbase that stretches across decades wasn't enough to warrant a solo title. If continuing this trend of 'oh he's gay now and it'll be a focal point...' is the best idea they've got, then they really don't know shit about the character and all he's accomplished.

I'd honestly hoped it'd just be written off later, the original five would vanish however, and they'd just be seen as alt reality versions of the founding 5 rather than the younger selves of the older mainstream mutants. Asking Marvel to get the X-Men back to a point where all these gimmicks aren't necessary is asking too much though. Seriously, the books are all but completely unrecognizable.

If it were me in the editors chair and the decision came on high to make one of the founding members of the X-Men gay, I'd have probably chosen Beast just because he's had less relationships in the past. Like, his sexuality and relationships have NEVER been that important, it would've given Beast something he lacked. Iceman's been with chicks like Rogue, Polaris, Shadowcat, etc. and now you're gonna say he's been gay the whole damn time?

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I'm not at all excited for the either of the X-Men Blue or Gold team books, but I will give both a chance.

Does this put an end to Extraordinary X-Men book?

What about the other X-Men titles like Uncanny or Wolverine? I can't remember if there's a X-Force title ongoing.
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X-23 is the new female Wolverine and there's also Old Man Logan running around. I don't think they've announced anything else as far as creative teams and such, but Cable is getting another solo series as well as the New Mutants/Generation X [apparently the original New Mutants fall under Gen X now]. So probably no X Force for the moment...

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After its announcement back in October, Marvel has revealed the creative team for its upcoming “Jean Grey” ongoing series. As announced by Newsarama, the series will be guided by writer Dennis Hopeless (“All-New X-Men”) and artist Victor Ibanez (“Extraordinary X-Men”).


“Jean Grey” will mark the founding X-Man’s first ever ongoing series, a move that Hopeless says “has been a long time coming.” “It’s a sort of trials of Hercules story,” said Hopeless of his new series. “Jean gets a premonition of sorts. She’s told the Phoenix is back in play and that the Earth is doomed unless Jean Grey can step up. Unfortunately, the Jean Grey we have is a wildly unprepared teenager. Our Jean needs to level up in a hurry. She needs to step into those huge shoes and become the full grown badass we all know she will eventually. So… she straps in and heads out to get some life experience.”
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“The Weapon X program is back, and it’s more deadly than ever — but this time its objective isn’t just to use mutants. Now it wants to exterminate them,” said Pak of the new series. “And the powers and abilities of this new Weapon X threat are so terrifying that you need both heroes and villains teaming up to handle it.”
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Jean Grey series is just lame.

Weapon X series is a predictable turn that takes characters I love (Sabretooth, Domino) and is probably going to do nothing good for them.
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The X-Men have just become so unreadable to me it's ridiculous. 15-20 years ago, I'd have LOVED to see a Phoenix or Iceman ongoing... now?

I'm surprised Angel/Archangel hasn't been given a shot at a solo series since he has all the trappings of some of the other titles. Rich guy with powers, longstanding connection to a popular team, etc...

What's up with young Angel's wings? Is that where he became a new Archangel or something and rather than metal they just changed it up for ****'s sake?

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GOD FUCKING DAMMIT, MARVEL, STOP PUTTING GREG LAND ON BOOKS THAT I WANT TO CHECK OUT
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So...here's hoping Cable has a great team? lol
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The creative team and plot for the 2017 Cable ongoing series has been announced by Marvel. One-time Cable writer James Robinson is returning to the title, with veteran illustrator Carlos Pacheco, in what is the sixth (and final, for now) X-Men book coming as part of the new "ResurrXion" joint line with the Inhumans.
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I liked Pacheco during Superman/Batman, but what of Robinson?
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James Robinson works best when he's on the smaller books. I'm going to try this one out...because I'm desperate, but I'm still super cautious. Robinson is probably the second biggest hit or miss writer in the industry behind JMS.
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Unfortunately I feel like Robinson is in the midst of a pretty long string if misses.
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I'll wait until someone gives a glowing review more intense than Chernobyl's fallout, then.
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