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Old 05-15-2008, 02:13 AM   #51
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Hi ... First of all, WELCOME to the best GL forum on the internet ... YOU rock !!!

I only have one question for ya ... Has the internet changed the way artists, colorists, and writers put comics together ??? If so, please explain how ...
Oh, of course. It's bound to. I get direct feedback from fans about my work. If A WHOLE LOT of strangers are saying basically the same thing, it's time to listen and change. Or if even one person is making a really great point, I'll think about it. We didn't have this before, the direct interaction with fans. When something isn't selling or working very well, it's easy to find out WHY now.
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Old 05-15-2008, 02:14 AM   #52
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Wow. That was a long answer. But a very good detailed one. I was wondering this myself for a long time. The figure didn't match the books, and why does it keep changing, balh, blah, blah. But now I know. Awesome Ethan thanks for that info. They should just re-release an accurate DCD figure....
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Old 05-15-2008, 02:16 AM   #53
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I remember Kilowog's uniform varying not just in your books, too. I seem to remember Kilowog returning to the classic GL leotard in the "Tales of the Sinestro Corps: Ion" special also.

Do you have any opinion or idea on how the whole "the green areas of a GL suit are hot" works? It was in the Manhunter arc, and now it's coming up again in Secret Origin... a lot of folks are confused by it.
That's something Geoff came up with that I thought was kind of neat. I think it came from the idea that I was throwing around that the black areas of the costume were literally the absence of light, which is why they didn't reflect back grey anymore. Geoff thought that sounded cold, like the temperature of that part of the suit would differ from the warmer green areas. I don't think it's important, (nor is my idea for the black part of the suit) but it may be of some interest to people who are detail obsessed. (Like me.)
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Thanks for the reply ... I should have phrased my question better ... I was talking more about how artists, colorists, and writers get together and/or communicate ... Due to the convenience of the internet and email, ya can swap information and sketches without actually using the postal service, etc ... In fact, ya don't even hafta be in the same place to show each other what you're doing ...
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Oh, of course. It's bound to. I get direct feedback from fans about my work. If A WHOLE LOT of strangers are saying basically the same thing, it's time to listen and change. Or if even one person is making a really great point, I'll think about it. We didn't have this before, the direct interaction with fans. When something isn't selling or working very well, it's easy to find out WHY now.
Which has been so much better for comics in the last few years. About a decade ago, most art in mainstream comics seemed too cartoony. Then Jim Lee and you Ethan, and Ivan, plus many many others came out with this new amazing stuff that just blows us all away.
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Old 05-15-2008, 02:20 AM   #56
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That's something Geoff came up with that I thought was kind of neat. I think it came from the idea that I was throwing around that the black areas of the costume were literally the absence of light, which is why they didn't reflect back grey anymore. Geoff thought that sounded cold, like the temperature of that part of the suit would differ from the warmer green areas. I don't think it's important, (nor is my idea for the black part of the suit) but it may be of some interest to people who are detail obsessed. (Like me.)
I think it was a really interesting and awesome idea. To say that it's not just a fabric material. But that it is made up of energy with green being hot and black cold. You just know that there is more to the suit and powers behind it all. Just another great idea on both your parts.


Y'know, with all this feedback from you Ethan, we should all be in the chat room!
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Old 05-15-2008, 02:20 AM   #57
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Here's something I always wondered, who is your favorite Earth Green Lantern to draw?
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Thanks for the reply ... I should have phrased my question better ... I was talking more about how artists, colorists, and writers get together and/or communicate ... Due to the convenience of the internet and email, ya can swap information and sketches without actually using the postal service, etc ... In fact, ya don't even hafta be in the same place to show each other what you're doing ...
Oh, I see. I'm not sure...when I first started in comics, we at the very least still had fax machines. And we used to fax drawings back and forth. I still do use a fax machine now and then. But we'd always exchange phone numbers and talk to eachother on the phone.

The internet has done wonders for communicating with fans one on one though. It's not terribly difficult to get commissioned sketches anymore. Or at least, be in a position to ask.
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For the record, I kinda like the Kilowog figure... but I agree it is a little off (my girlfriend was the first one to tell me that, even... and I was geeking out like, "No, it's Kilowog, he's fucking huge and massive, it's a badass figure!" and she'd simply tell me, "OK, well... but it doesn't look like him"). I would have certainly preferred either the standard leotard or the newer Hal GL suit for him, as it better accents his muscles and detail and all that, stuff that is lost when 90% of his body is just a black mass as it is with the Stewart costume.

Another question for you: Who designed the current Kyle costume, and what was the deal with the 3 shoulder bumps on each side? Were they there to begin with and you and Reis phased them out when you worked on GL #25, or were they never even there in the design to begin with, and it was just various Countdown/Challengers artists improperly drawing/adding the 3 bumps on each side?

Personally I love the shoulder bumps (and I think some others do too). They're a carryover piece of his Jim Lee suit, just a tiny piece (though not totally the same... obviously they're green now, not black, and there's 3 on each arm, not 9 or 10 as in the Jim Lee suit), and it gives his costume a very necessary touch -- just a touch -- of his artsy side. Without them it appears somewhat plain, and a little too reminiscent of Hal's suit (and Kyle doesn't even get the dynamic, angular lines on the gloves and boots that Hal's current suit gets).
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Here's something I always wondered, who is your favorite Earth Green Lantern to draw?
Guy and John, because I've gotten to draw them the least. And they are both interesting visually, with Guy's kind of Billy Idol sneer and John's precise and immaculate method of creating constructs. Both require more effort, more thought from me, and both pay off more in the end, I feel.
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Old 05-15-2008, 02:25 AM   #61
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Oh, I see. I'm not sure...when I first started in comics, we at the very least still had fax machines. And we used to fax drawings back and forth. I still do use a fax machine now and then. But we'd always exchange phone numbers and talk to eachother on the phone.

The internet has done wonders for communicating with fans one on one though. It's not terribly difficult to get commissioned sketches anymore. Or at least, be in a position to ask.
Please don't let us fans infect yer art too much though ... We don't always know what we want or what's best for a character's development ... If it was up to me, I'd have Guy written in the pop culture history books as the greatest hero of all time ... Don't take us fans too seriously ... Afterall, I'm a fan using a roll of toilet paper as my avatar ... Ya know ???
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Old 05-15-2008, 02:26 AM   #62
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For the record, I kinda like the Kilowog figure... but I agree it is a little off (my girlfriend was the first one to tell me that, even... and I was geeking out like, "No, it's Kilowog, he's fucking huge and massive, it's a badass figure!" and she'd simply tell me, "OK, well... but it doesn't look like him"). I would have certainly preferred either the standard leotard or the newer Hal GL suit for him, as it better accents his muscles and detail and all that, stuff that is lost when 90% of his body is just a black mass as it is with the Stewart costume.

Another question for you: Who designed the current Kyle costume, and what was the deal with the 3 shoulder bumps on each side? Were they there to begin with and you and Reis phased them out, or were they never there in the design, and it was just various Countdown/Challengers artists improperly drawing the 3 bumps on each side?

Personally I love the shoulder bumps (and I think some others do too). They're a piece of his Jim Lee suit, just a tiny piece, and it gives his costume a very necessary touch -- just a touch -- of his artsy side. Without them it appears somewhat plain, and a little too reminiscent of Hal's suit (and Kyle doesn't even get the dynamic lines on the gloves and boots that Hal's current suit gets).
I had nothing to do with any of Kyle's costumes, I'm sorry to say. All of them have missed the mark for me, this one included. Jim Lee's version was nifty, but a little too busy. The Ion one was a mess...no one seemed to be able to keep it straight. People overthink Kyle. He should look like one of the Lanterns, like he belongs there, not like some eccentric sidekick for Hal.
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Y'know, with all this feedback from you Ethan, we should all be in the chat room!
If Ethan is willing, he need only click here.
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I had nothing to do with any of Kyle's costumes, I'm sorry to say. All of them have missed the mark for me, this one included. Jim Lee's version was nifty, but a little too busy. The Ion one was a mess...no one seemed to be able to keep it straight. People overthink Kyle. He should look like one of the Lanterns, like he belongs there, not like some eccentric sidekick for Hal.
Agreed on all points.

And I really did love your polishing on Ion's costume in the Sinestro Corps War special -- badass.
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Old 05-15-2008, 02:30 AM   #65
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Alright, let me see the chat room...
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Old 05-15-2008, 02:31 AM   #66
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Nope, it doesn't work for me. Sorry.
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Old 05-15-2008, 02:32 AM   #67
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Hmm... try clicking on "FlashChat" in the upper right corner of the toolbar up top.
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Hmm... try clicking on "FlashChat" in the upper right corner of the toolbar up top.
It's not taking my screen name and password.
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Old 05-15-2008, 02:35 AM   #69
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Damn... as long as you're logged in, it shouldn't even be asking you for that. Let me try a temporary fix... give me 2 minutes.
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It's probably thinking "No F-ing way this is Ethan Van Sciver"
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All right, Ethan... log out of the board, log back in, and give it one more shot... it could be the FlashChat doesn't like the Honored Guest sub-user category.
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Old 05-15-2008, 02:45 AM   #72
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Ethan, I have a question for you....



Ginger or Mary Ann?
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Old 05-15-2008, 03:13 AM   #73
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Awesome chat with you just now, Ethan, thanks for joining us! Maybe we can schedule them with you in the future, if you're interested in more?
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Yea!

We could rock out with our.......comics out!
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