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Old 03-23-2017, 07:28 PM   #801
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I took the most recent month's figures, which are on the previous page of this thread, and divided them by the figues here:

http://icv2.com/articles/markets/vie...tual-june-2016

However, JLA wasn't relaunched till the following month.

http://icv2.com/articles/markets/vie...tual-july-2016
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Old 03-25-2017, 09:14 AM   #802
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It's time to make Green Lantern great again.

That entails flushing everything since Kyle's earliest days and starting all four (not six) Earth Lanterns off on an equal footing. Restoring the Guardians and keeping them off-camera. Having two A titles, not an A title and a B title, with one based on Earth and the other in space, and putting the other two Lanterns on teams. Not coordinating the two titles but letting them tell their own stories. Retiring the emotional spectrum or putting it in a recurring mini.

There's nothing complicated about that, and it'll sell. It just requires a long-overdue reboot.

Do it and thrive, or watch the property continue to decline.
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Old 03-26-2017, 09:50 PM   #803
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As long as Johns is apart of DC we're stuck with Baz and Cruz.
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Old 03-26-2017, 10:39 PM   #804
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As long as Johns is apart of DC we're stuck with Baz and Cruz.
I'm sure they'll be around somewhere. But it doesn't have to be as Lanterns.
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Old 03-26-2017, 10:53 PM   #805
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Make Crus and Baz into the new Peek A Boo and the new Human Bomb.
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Old 03-27-2017, 03:23 PM   #806
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I'm sure they'll be around somewhere. But it doesn't have to be as Lanterns.
The book will have to do terrible numbers for that to happen. I mean so terrible not even Johns will save them.They are his creations after all [and Baz is supposed to be Johns' personal avatar as well]
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The book will have to do terrible numbers for that to happen. I mean so terrible not even Johns will save them.They are his creations after all [and Baz is supposed to be Johns' personal avatar as well]
Just be patient. They'll have to tap out sooner or later and admit that they screwed it all up.
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Just be patient. They'll have to tap out sooner or later and admit that they screwed it all up.
When has DC every admitted that they screwed up?
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It's the sales, John. The sales. Money talks. You can't sell something that people won't buy, no matter how badly you want to sell it.

Nobody except DC's management wanted Baz and Cruz to be put in the JLA and to get their own GL comic, and for the other four Lanterns to be crammed into another comic. A pig with lipstick on it is still a pig, and nobody will buy it except someone who wants a pig.

I posted a long time ago that I thought they were doing this to get the diversity police off their backs. So they could say, "See how hard we tried to do this?" That's the only explanation I can think of. They couldn't be foolish enough to think this would actually work.

At least I don't think they could be.
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This is an unusual comics board because most people here aren't politically correct. On CBR for example, the owner, Jonah Weiland, uses the word "diversity" as if it's sacred and unanswerable, and often angrily. Most people there thought that making Alan Scott gay would make the JSA comic fly off the shelves. They really believed that!

Well, why would it? And why would putting a Muslim Lantern and a female Latino Lantern in a comic make it sell? Especially when you promote them at the expense of your existing characters!

DC needs to learn from this and move on.
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Old 03-27-2017, 08:05 PM   #811
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It's the sales, John. The sales. Money talks. You can't sell something that people won't buy, no matter how badly you want to sell it.

Nobody except DC's management wanted Baz and Cruz to be put in the JLA and to get their own GL comic, and for the other four Lanterns to be crammed into another comic. A pig with lipstick on it is still a pig, and nobody will buy it except someone who wants a pig.

I posted a long time ago that I thought they were doing this to get the diversity police off their backs. So they could say, "See how hard we tried to do this?" That's the only explanation I can think of. They couldn't be foolish enough to think this would actually work.

At least I don't think they could be.
Oh I know its all about sales Trey. Like I said DC will continue to shove them down our throats until sales get terrible [the drizzling shits as Dave like to so eloquently put it] then they might make some serious changes. Unfortunately as long as Johns is still prominent in DC he'll find a way to keep them front and centre. They're his creations so I can see him letting them go without a fight.
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Oh I know its all about sales Trey. Like I said DC will continue to shove them down our throats until sales get terrible [the drizzling shits as Dave like to so eloquently put it] then they might make some serious changes. Unfortunately as long as Johns is still prominent in DC he'll find a way to keep them front and centre. They're his creations so I can see him letting them go without a fight.
Sad as it is to say Johns might need one of those Morrison like catastrophic failures before his word or his desires aren't law at DC and are reduced to mere powerful suggestions.
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