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Old 02-03-2019, 07:12 PM   #1201
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I would be fine with paying the expensive prices of today if the quality matched, but it doesn't. When I was a kid in the 80s, the bar kept rising as writers were bringing better and better stories to the party. By the mid 90s the bar was abandoned. Where are the Alan Moores and Neil Gaimans of today? Not in the comic industry that's for sure.

Not only that I think after 2011 the quality of the overall product has severly taken several steps back. If comics were $1.00 a piece it would be no big deal, but I just lost interest over time of paying 4 dollars for crap.
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Old 02-03-2019, 07:48 PM   #1202
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I just think the whole business model needs to be reevaluated. Rather than tying a bunch of comics together through crossover events to sell more comics based on a gimmick or story point, the comics could merely be cheaper and easier to attain without making a special trip.

Tell me right now if there was a Swamp Thing comic on a magazine rack at your local grocery story or gas station [along with say Doom Patrol since BOTH are getting live action series] for less than $2 each it wouldn't peak your interest.

It would all just come down to what kinda books DC would be willing to put out there. What would they want to promote that isn't the same old Superman, Batman, JL, or Titans stuff? I think a key factor would be whatever live action or animated stuff they had in the works. Like I mentioned before, Swamp Thing, Doom Patrol, Harley Quinn, Stargirl, Titans, Shazam, and Wonder Woman, as well as Young Justice are all getting new streaming shows and/or movies. There should be new material for all of those concepts, and it shouldn't take a customer already being interested in the characters enough to go out of their way to a specific comic shop to pay $4 a pop for a comic. The comics should just be a bit cheaper and easier to find.

If the comics kept catching your eye at grocery stores and gas stations sooner than later the blooming fan would take a look.

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Old 02-04-2019, 11:33 PM   #1203
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Old 02-05-2019, 12:36 AM   #1204
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An interesting quote in one of the comments. It's what I've been saying for a long time, as pretty much a voice in the wilderness:

"The periodical format no longer has the bang for its buck that it once did. Decompressed and cinematic storytelling have ruined the format. Don't misunderstand me: I love the (mostly) beautiful artwork that graces two-page spreads, but there is something wrong when it takes six issues to tell a two-issue story just to meet the demands of the inevitable trade collection."

They need to go to a six-panel grid and limit the stories to four issues. You can tell plenty of story in that many panels, about equal to a one-hour television show. And if someone gets a solid idea for a two-hour story, then tell it in eight issues.

Also, print the floppies on newsprint and cut the prices as much as this will allow.

Those are the two most effective changes in format and price that they could make.
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Old 02-05-2019, 11:11 AM   #1205
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So less than a year of Mad is what they axed Bongo for?
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Old 02-05-2019, 02:27 PM   #1206
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So less than a year of Mad is what they axed Bongo for?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssiLkxTTrzc
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Old 02-05-2019, 06:03 PM   #1207
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Was she having a stroke on live television?
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Old 02-05-2019, 06:29 PM   #1208
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Was she having a stroke on live television?
Apparently, it was a "complex migraine," but the symptoms present similar to a stroke.

You can tell she was panicked and knew it wasn't coming out right, which is what she said later.
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Old 02-07-2019, 12:00 AM   #1209
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Old 02-08-2019, 01:27 PM   #1210
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Green Arrow #50 Variant by Doc Shaner



Young Justice #3 Variant by Doc Shaner

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Old 02-08-2019, 02:17 PM   #1211
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While we're at it: Batman by Doc Shaner
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Old 02-08-2019, 03:12 PM   #1212
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My lord... Shaner's art is SO pleasant to look at. It litterally PLEASES me to gaze upon his artwork. He even makes a post DCU Green Arrow look good.
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Old 02-09-2019, 05:49 PM   #1213
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Justice League #19 Variant by Rob Liefeld

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Old 02-09-2019, 08:52 PM   #1214
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My lord... Shaner's art is SO pleasant to look at. It litterally PLEASES me to gaze uoon his artwork. He even makes a post DCU Green Arrow look good.
Agreed. Whereas Liefeld still can't draw feet and forgets minor details that throw off every character he touches. Batman's gloves don't have the spikes, Superman's belt lacks the red straps, but for once it looks like a female drawn by Rob.... HAS A SPINE!

Superman and John Stewart are also horribly in the same pose.

I honestly don't even credit the man for creating Deadpool. He created the basis, but it wasn't until Joe Kelly and Ed McGuinness got the character back in the mid-90's we got the character everybody knows and loves today.

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Old 02-10-2019, 12:57 AM   #1215
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I never get tired of mocking Liefeld!
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Old 02-10-2019, 11:55 PM   #1216
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I legit started laughing when I saw that Liefeld variant.
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Old 02-11-2019, 02:50 PM   #1217
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His Batman and the other way he draws teeth now reminds me of a John McCain face under the mask LMAO

Wonder Woman and Batman's belts both also look horrible. Bats' belt apparently goes up and around the lower part of his rib cage... with Superman's belt also being done wrong... is Liefeld just bad when it comes to belts now? Despite being THE guy that defined the belts/pouches big gun/shoulderpads era?

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That JLA variant is sadly Liefeld at the top of his game. You can tell he was trying his hardest this time to make these look like people. If he wasn't so terrible I would actually feel bad for the guy.
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I think the contrast between Shaner and Liefeld makes the Justice League cover look worse than it is. I can forgive Superman and John sharing the same pose, and the rest can be chalked up to style.
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In that universe John McCain was Batman. I can't unsee it...



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Old 02-11-2019, 05:14 PM   #1221
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That JLA variant is sadly Liefeld at the top of his game. You can tell he was trying his hardest this time to make these look like people. If he wasn't so terrible I would actually feel bad for the guy.
Why would you feel bad for the guy? He never lacks for work!
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Ha! That is true.
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Old 02-11-2019, 11:39 PM   #1223
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Who is the only real rival for Walmart? It's Target, right? So Marvel needs to hurry up and sign a deal with Target like the one DC signed with Walmart, to sell a line of Marvel publications there.
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Who is the only real rival for Walmart? It's Target, right? So Marvel needs to hurry up and sign a deal with Target like the one DC signed with Walmart, to sell a line of Marvel publications there.
You must have missed this.
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Old 02-12-2019, 08:42 PM   #1225
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You must have missed this.
Yes I did. That's just one issue, right? I imagine that DC is testing the waters to publish comics for Target.

It seems that Marvel missed the boat.
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