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Old 06-08-2016, 11:58 AM   #1
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Default Green Lantern Corps: Edge of Oblivion #6 *Preview/Spoilers*

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Writer: Tom Taylor
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Ha. There was a little verbal reference to Mosaic.
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Old 06-08-2016, 09:54 PM   #3
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Just read it and the only exciting thing to me was the idea that a kernel of the Old Universe is now on Mogo.

What does this mean? It's a diverse refugee population. There are all sorts of possibilities. From what we've seen (and heard about) in Relic's backstory and the last two GL series: Lost Army and Edge of Oblivion, the overall knowledge and scope of the Old Universe's populace in manipulating the emotional electromagnetic spectrum may be greater than the current, mainstream DC universe. (Though surprisingly, Old Universe'ers never seemed to have found their prime emotion avatars or ever harnessed the white light of Creation)

Maybe there are a few ex-lightwielders to be found who can make some interesting new storylines?
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This was mediocre at best, went out with a whimper.
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Can someone spoil it for me?
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Old 06-09-2016, 07:51 AM   #6
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This series sucked so hard from start to finish, in my opinion. After all that, there is still no explanation as to why the Corps was even sent back to that other universe and who did that to them. I don't believe we should have to get that explanation elsewhere, and the fact that we apparently do brings this already bad series considerably lower in my view.

I would't be surprised if DC just decided to not explain that. It seemed to be one of the main things in Lost Army, but in Edge of Oblivion, that entire mystery seemed to be thrown out the window in favor of commentary about immigration. Whatever the explanation ends up being... if there is one... I'm confident it won't be the one that was originally planned in Lost Army. I imagine Krona must have had something to do with something, but Edge of Oblivion pretends he was never involved.

Another upsetting factor is that the most obvious solution, which the Corps actually wrote off immediately, wound up being the solution. There's a tear in space... maybe that is actually the way home. I'm confident many readers considered that, and yet, no one in story was intelligent enough to even entertain the thought?

Also... I don't even see the point of that worthless Iolande subplot of her and some Lanterns flying in space. I don't think any more than one page needed to be spent on that. It didn't really amount to anything, other than Lanterns flying in space and then eventually showing up on Mogo issues later.

Really sub par series on multiple levels:

* A story that contradicts and ignores the one that immediately came before it, which it SHOULD be directly linked with.

* A generally painfully uninteresting narrative.

* Poor art after the third issue. And maybe even before that depending on your opinion of Ethan Van Sciver (personally, I greatly preferred Jesus Saiz). While I will say some of Van Sciver's stuff is impressive, he also did a lot of stuff I didn't care for, like butch women, some weird proportions, and some other things.

* The ending has no "punch line." The series is set up on a mystery, and the ending doesn't... explain ANYTHING.

* No worthwhile characterization or advancement for any of the characters involved.

* No good fights.

* Uninteresting foes.

With Lost Army, I do believe Cullen Bunn was progressing the story too slowly, and it could have been better in some ways, but it at least seemed like the story was really headed somewhere, and had the potential to be REALLY interesting. It seems like DC gave up on all of that and just put out Edge of Oblivion just because. I believe it would have been better to have just let Lost Army run its planned course. I see this whole thing DC has wound up with as a disaster, but fortunately for them, by the end of this, I doubt enough people were reading/invested enough in the story anymore to even care.

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The long and short of it is that some lanterns die and the GLs notice their rings are going to the rift that sucked out Arisia (for replacements). Baz theorizes its their way out and jumps through as a test, but (of course) they don't hear any more from him. The lanterns divide between fighting the Blackest Knights and gathering/protecting the universe. The old planet volunteers to stay behind and hold the knights. The GLs gather all the refugees on Mogo and head into the rift with them. Fade out to white.
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Great way to end a mini series...with no resolution. They just leave it on another cliffhanger like they did with Lost Army. Pretty dismal.
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Great way to end a mini series...with no resolution. They just leave it on another cliffhanger like they did with Lost Army. Pretty dismal.
Yeah, when they did it with Lost Army, it was a slightly different situation. That was a cancelled ongoing (so it didn't have a set length it was working with), with a miniseries announced to, by implication, conclude its storyline. Here we have a miniseries, with a set length. Not only does it not, in any meaningful way, actually wrap up what Lost Army established (it totally drops almost every aspect of that storyline), it doesn't even wrap up its OWN storyline, despite knowing going in exactly how many issues they had to accomplish that.

Pretty poor form on multiple counts if you ask me. We'll see if HJ&tGLC makes up for the deficiencies here, I guess.
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The long and short of it is that some lanterns die and the GLs notice their rings are going to the rift that sucked out Arisia (for replacements). Baz theorizes its their way out and jumps through as a test, but (of course) they don't hear any more from him. The lanterns divide between fighting the Blackest Knights and gathering/protecting the universe. The old planet volunteers to stay behind and hold the knights. The GLs gather all the refugees on Mogo and head into the rift with them. Fade out to white.
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Yeah, when they did it with Lost Army, it was a slightly different situation. That was a cancelled ongoing (so it didn't have a set length it was working with), with a miniseries announced to, by implication, conclude its storyline. Here we have a miniseries, with a set length. Not only does it not, in any meaningful way, actually wrap up what Lost Army established (it totally drops almost every aspect of that storyline), it doesn't even wrap up its OWN storyline, despite knowing going in exactly how many issues they had to accomplish that.

Pretty poor form on multiple counts if you ask me. We'll see if HJ&tGLC makes up for the deficiencies here, I guess.
Exactly. You can forgive an ongoing not having a proper resolution when it gets cancelled, but what excuse does a mini series have?

Not only that, it means that this "mystery" now has to roll over into the beginning of the new ongoing GLC title! How much of a "Rebirth" is it when HJ&TGLC starts out needing to resolve Hal being a criminal on the run, and the Corps still missing? All of that garbage should have been over and done with before this new series starts, at least if they intend it to be a jumping ON point.
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My guess: first arc is primarily Hal vs Sinestro Corps and just when it looks like it's game over the GLC shows up to save the day.
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My guess: first arc is primarily Hal vs Sinestro Corps and just when it looks like it's game over the GLC shows up to save the day.
That sounds likely.
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Wait that wouldn't make much sense since Baz is already back in Green Lanterns...
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But does Green Lanterns even count? My head cannon is already ignoring it.
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Yeah, they haven't made the chronology/canon real clear, although GLs Rebirth did reference Lost Army/Edge.
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Wait that wouldn't make much sense since Baz is already back in Green Lanterns...
It could be explained like one of those wacky time travel things where you step into the breach minutes apart and actually arrive somewhere days, months or longer apart. It's got to be something like that since Simon is indeed back before the rest of the Corps. That would also imply Arisia and B'ddg should also be back somewhere, even before Simon came back.
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Yeah, they haven't made the chronology/canon real clear, although GLs Rebirth did reference Lost Army/Edge.
A preview for Green Lanterns #1 has come out, and it has Baz back on Earth, and it says the Corps is STILL missing. So.......... I dunno' x___x





DC can maybe get themselves out of that clear oversight by saying, "Well, Simon Baz went through the tear in space first, so he is back first." But, I don't know. To me, it just looks like another glaring contradiction from series to series. At the very least, it is very poor planning.

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DC can maybe get themselves out of that clear oversight by saying, "Well, Simon Baz went through the tear in space first, so he is back first." But, I don't know. To me, it just looks like another glaring contradiction from series to series. At the very least, it is very poor planning.
Eh, it's not perfect but time passing differently between different dimensions/universes is a pretty common trope.
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I'm actually interested in the "Red Dawn" promise at the end of GLs Rebirth. Huge fan of the Reds.
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Eh, it's not perfect but time passing differently between different dimensions/universes is a pretty common trope.
The bigger problem is that not once in his interactions with Hal does Baz say a single thing about where the GLC is or what is happening to them, yet Hal SEEMS to be unaware of their status from the comments he makes. I could buy that Baz made it back much earlier due to time variance weirdness, but not that he would not then IMMEDIATELY go tell everybody what was going on and lead them back to wherever it was he popped into our universe. He wouldn't just fly back to earth and just pick up being GL there like nothing had happened.

They REALLY need to connect those dots, and show us exactly what Baz did upon returning to our universe. Maybe they will, but the time to do it would have been BEFORE they had him pop up in Green Lanterns, IMHO.
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Killowog´s speech was kinda neat.

At first glance I though, "What is a guy from the Justice Friends show doing there?", then I realized it was Iolande´s dad.
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The bigger problem is that not once in his interactions with Hal does Baz say a single thing about where the GLC is or what is happening to them, yet Hal SEEMS to be unaware of their status from the comments he makes. I could buy that Baz made it back much earlier due to time variance weirdness, but not that he would not then IMMEDIATELY go tell everybody what was going on and lead them back to wherever it was he popped into our universe. He wouldn't just fly back to earth and just pick up being GL there like nothing had happened.

They REALLY need to connect those dots, and show us exactly what Baz did upon returning to our universe. Maybe they will, but the time to do it would have been BEFORE they had him pop up in Green Lanterns, IMHO.
From a storytelling point of view, this situation doesn't work very cohesively. Looking at the Lost Army to Edge of Oblivion situation, I highly doubt DC will do anything satisfactory to rectify that. What's also interesting is that Jessica Cruz got her power ring during "Darkseid War," and the Corps was there. Now they're gone... and she didn't go with them.

It doesn't hold together. I'm not the biggest stickler for continuity ever, but I don't believe there should be such massive contradictions and discrepancies. Remember, DC has teams of professionals whose job it should be to keep their storytelling straight. DC's entire business is telling stories, and lately, in regards to Green Lantern, at least, their stories don't make any sense with each other, yet they're supposed to be connected.

This makes me less and less interested in their storytelling because if these teams of professionals can't be bothered to have their stories make sense, why should I be bothered to follow them? Furthermore, the stories are over all tepid and not even good, and, for me, at least, Edge of Oblivion is a perfect example of that.
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From a storytelling point of view, this situation doesn't work very cohesively. Looking at the Lost Army to Edge of Oblivion situation, I highly doubt DC will do anything satisfactory to rectify that. What's also interesting is that Jessica Cruz got her power ring during "Darkseid War," and the Corps was there. Now they're gone... and she didn't go with them.
It looks like editorial just flat out changed their mind, per Fabok the Renegade storyline was originally suppose to happen prior to Darkseid War.
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From a storytelling point of view, this situation doesn't work very cohesively. Looking at the Lost Army to Edge of Oblivion situation, I highly doubt DC will do anything satisfactory to rectify that. What's also interesting is that Jessica Cruz got her power ring during "Darkseid War," and the Corps was there. Now they're gone... and she didn't go with them.

It doesn't hold together. I'm not the biggest stickler for continuity ever, but I don't believe there should be such massive contradictions and discrepancies. Remember, DC has teams of professionals whose job it should be to keep their storytelling straight. DC's entire business is telling stories, and lately, in regards to Green Lantern, at least, their stories don't make any sense with each other, yet they're supposed to be connected.

This makes me less and less interested in their storytelling because if these teams of professionals can't be bothered to have their stories make sense, why should I be bothered to follow them? Furthermore, the stories are over all tepid and not even good, and, for me, at least, Edge of Oblivion is a perfect example of that.
I'm completely with you on EoO. I must admit new hope in regard to Green Lanterns though. Once I gave it another try I really liked it.
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