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  • The Mummy (1932)

    Truth be told, this is probably my favorite Karloff movie of all time. Some people see it as "the lesser man's Dracula," incorporating some of the basic themes of love and love lost, but I think it stands above said movie by a large margin. Unfortunately, it just never struck the same chord with audiences as Dracula did, even though the real world headlines were all about King Tut's tomb at the time.

    People may classify this movie as "horror" considering the whole raising of the dead thing, but I see it as drama with monster overtones. The one true scene to convince me of this is Ardeth Bey's trip down memory lane with Helen Grosvenor, which is a tale so steeped in tragedy and love that it tugs on the heart strings. I mean, here is a guy who literally DIED for his love. WILLINGLY. Originally, this was quite an extended scene, with Imhotep and Ankh-es-en-amon meeting periodically throughout the years, but Universal cut the scene down to just the Egyptian parts.

    One of my small gripes about the Mummy franchise is that when you think of the character, people automatically think of Lon Chaney's dude in bandages running around after his tea leaves and various women, but what they really don't realize is that the original Mummy was a sophisticated, articulated and intelligent gentleman in the guise of Ardeth Bey; a real gem of a character. Quite a snappy dresser, too. I much prefer this depiction over the lumbering mute people remember the most.

    Film historians remember this most for Karl Freund's beautiful camera work, particularly what stands out for me is the close ups of Ardeth's eyes when he first meets Helen (a comparison to Dracula as well, as Freund was the cameraman on that movie, too), and they used Swan Lake as the soundtrack (again, another use from Dracula), but I think what stands out is actress Zita Johann, whom had told the press in later years how hard Freund had worked her, almost borderline cruelty. She didn't have the typical trappings of the Universal Monsters' women in distress; she was truly a child a two worlds, trying to find her way.

    And Edward Van Sloan, as the typical good guy supernatural fighter (Van Helsing in Dracula) has a particular flair for the dramatic in his speech, but instead of making one laugh, it actually deepens the mystic heritage of the tale. And another triumph for Jack Pierce's wonderful makeup job.

    So, before you go grave robbing with Brendan Frasier, give this one a try.

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    • Hmm. Well, it is probably underrated in the Universal Pantheon, but I think the rep as a poor man's Dracula has mostly to do with it having the same script structure (undead man hunting young lady, her boyfriend the hero, the specialist doctor who knows what's going on) and the fact that they cast a couple of the same actors in the equivalent parts (not only van Sloan, but Manners too), which gives it the vibe of a stock company switching out the names for a retooled play.

      Personally, I like Browning's work (though he shines even more in Freaks) more than Freund's but I get what you're saying about Bey being a more sympathetic (or empathetic, perhaps) character than the count and that's not a bad reason to like it more.

      I've also thought about the fact that every one assumes The Mummy is about the wrapped creature, which only appears for a minute in the original. They definitely made the right call allowing Karlof to be seen and pass for human.

      Dracula
      would win for me in set design (as well as lighting and general atmosphere) and for Dwight Frye's total insanity among other things.

      As to the modern movies, it's apples and oranges. I like both the classic and the remake, but I think of the Sommers' movies as a comedic fantasy adventure more in line with Indiana Jones than any classic Universal monster.
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      • Had to watch my full-moon werewolf movie during the day this time because I'll be busy tonight.

        Cry of the Werewolf (1944)

        "Of the two, the werewolf is perhaps the most horrible."



        Not particularly great. Felt kind of like a Val Lewton movie, but isn't. It follows a werewolf-cursed gypsy line striving to keep their secret from a professor and his family. Of note for the time is that they transform into actual wolves, not wolf people.

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        • Island of Lost Souls (1932)

          "Are we not men?!"



          So, I finally saw this first (and many say best) adaptation of The Island of Doctor Moreau. I quite liked it. The makeups are great and the film is just well shot with good lighting, acting, cutting, etc.



          Charles Laughton plays Mareau. Bela Lugosi plays the leader of the beast men (not a huge part).



          I've been watching the Criterion edition with all its features and learned some cool stuff. For instance, HG Wells himself was still alive and objected strenuously to the film, but he seemed to dislike adaptations of his work in general and as others have noted, if he saw the later adaptations, he may have been kinder to this one which has a palpable, creepy atmosphere.

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          Last edited by Space Cop; 12-05-2015, 02:24 PM.

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          • I'm posting a link to it in the Videos forum. This is the clearest print I've ever seen.

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            • Originally posted by Space Bus View Post
              See, that quote right there is what sets the original Karloff Mummy's apart from the tana leaves boys. The story was never about death per se, it was about love and ever lasting life in the guise of a monster flick. Imhotep didn't want to be a mad scientist, nor was he afflicted with a disease he did not want, nor was he some nasty blood sacking creature. He loved a girl and wanted to bring them together spiritually and physically. Unfortunately, all these damn jackanape archaeologists got in the way because they fell for his girl.

              Then the story changes to Kharis, who is basically an addict that obeys a dude who gives him his daily fix. They occasionally toy with the idea of a relationship with his girl, but the damn priest gets greedy and moves in on her. Quite a difference from the original.

              Don't get me wrong; I love all the Universal Classic Monster flicks, including the Kharis Mummy stories, I just think they are a bit watered down and are some of the prime first examples of sequelitus.

              Moving this from the film thread.

              It's true. It's a very different story and a very different mummy. Karis is more like the zombies of old voodoo movies (reanimated dead at the control of the guy who wakes him).

              The funny part is the image of the mummy in pop culture is the shuffling mummy of the sequels, not the speaking, passing for a living human of Karloff.

              By the way, a few years ago, James Rolfe reviewed all the classic Mummy movies during Monster Madness. Jeff would probably dig that he refers to The Mummy as repeating a lot of Dracula, but doing it in a more sophisticated way.
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              • ^In this rather large book I have titled Universal Horrors, the authors went into much more detail about how they fashioned the original Mummy after Dracula, right down to the Swan Lake motif in the background music. I think the basic premise was that they wanted Karloff in a speaking role instead of the infamous Monster, but he couldn't quite match the debonair Lugosi, although I personally find The Mummy to be much more satisfying.

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                • Here's the book I'm referring to, although mine is a hardcover with no photos on the cover.

                  https://www.amazon.com/Universal-Hor...1-1#nav-subnav

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                  • ^That book is in my Amazon wish list. I just haven't gotten around to ordering it. I think Abin might have first turned me on to it.

                    I didn't realize that the creators had admitted the Dracula connections (even though they'd be hard to deny).

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                    • The book really is worth every penny, even if you get the ebook version of it. There are so many facts and tidbits about each film that a college course could be taught on it. For instance, (I forget the names but) the director of the original Mummy seriously clashed the first with the female lead star. they did NOT get along at all. Plus the onscreen rivalry between Karloff and Lugosi is finally explained.

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                      • Great news, everyone!


                        Thursday was my birthday, and being the kind of person I am, I could barely think of anything to ask that I couldn't get myself at a later date (I just don't ask for much, go figure). Yesterday I got a gift card in the mail from my older sister, $25 for Amazon, and I just used it to get the one gift I'd figured to request.

                        Nosferatu on Blu-ray, 2-disc Kino deluxe remastered edition, brand new. The card covered the item price and the shipping price fully, with a few cents left over.

                        And then I put a whole bunch of other classic German sci-fi/horror flicks on my wish list.
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                        • ^I'll be interested to hear about the disc; how it looks; what the features are.

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                          • How long was the original Nosferatu? I have it my head that it was only something like 20 minutes long, but I doubt myself on that.

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                            • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nosferatu


                              94 mins.
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                              September 11, 2001; January 6, 2021; February 13, 2021

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                              • Originally posted by Agent Purple View Post
                                Man......I can get so lost on Wiki just going from page to page absorbing information with no regard to what is going on outside of my tunnel vision.

                                I had no idea the original film was the subject of a lawsuit by Stoker's widow. thank goodness someone hid a few copies on the d/l. I've seen it a long time ago, but forget much of it. I will have to watch it again soon.

                                During my article jump, I read up on Nosferatu the Vampyre from 1979. That looks like something I would want to watch.

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