The DC Comics Thread vol. 2

[Michael Heide Heide Finition Find all posts View Profile Close Michael Heide]

Nah. Second-rate clones of Starfire or Cyborg would never be as good as the real ones. Either have them join the team, add characters from the Teen Titans' rich history (Aqualad, Bumblebee, Terra, Argent, Risk, Miss Martian) or create new ones that have more going on for them than replacing Kory or Vic.

[Big Daddy Dave Skywalker Moisture Farmer Find all posts View Profile Close Big Daddy Dave Skywalker]

Robin is definitely needed, but he is yet another male white hetero character, and we do have Batman and Robin, so I see why he isn't a top priority right now.

That's a good point. With the revolving door that is the "mantle of the Robin", why don't they make the next one a minority? Black, Asian or Mexican? It's not like anybody will question Bruce keeping some little minority kid around the mansion; they'll just assume he's gone Hollywood and adopted some kid from another country like Angelina Jolie or Madonna. And replacing Robin with a minority would make more sense with a hero ID that changes all the time as opposed to some of the others that look so ridiculously forced.

Have Bruce pick some kid up on some globe trotting adventure and bring him home with him.

[Space Cop The Dandy Find all posts View Profile Close Space Cop]

Same thing could be said for Robin. How long's it been since he got his own monthly series? I think it goes back even further than the New52, and I don't include the Batman & title. I'm not even a fan of Damian, but if a Catwoman title is justified then certainly a Robin title would be as important to the Bat-franchise. We're like three years into the New52 and he still hasn't got his own title. Sure, it's probably in the works now... but no way in hell is Catwoman more important to the franchise and more deserving of a title than Robin. Robin right out of the gate New52 would still be going if it premiered with the rest of the relaunched DC. So long as it wasn't tied to Teen Titans...

A Robin title would be good. I used to really like the Robin book during Tim's days (have a big stack of them). I think

(1) Batman and Robin (even pre-New 52) was supposed to replace that directly.

(2) they wrote themselves into a corner with a ten-year-old Robin. The independent adventures of a pre-pubescent are a little harder sell. I even vaguely recall Tomasi or someone saying that in an interview, but I wouldn't be able to track it down at this point.

(3) strictly from a traditional view, Catwoman still makes more sense because she at least is defined as an individual character even when she's all bad, while Robin's main identity is that he's a sidekick.

[Ωmega Man Guardian of the Universe Find all posts View Profile Close Ωmega Man]

Nah. Second-rate clones of Starfire or Cyborg would never be as good as the real ones. Either have them join the team, add characters from the Teen Titans' rich history (Aqualad, Bumblebee, Terra, Argent, Risk, Miss Martian) or create new ones that have more going on for them than replacing Kory or Vic.

I don't mean like complete knockoffs, but since you mentioned Miss Martian she'd fill the Starfire role quite well being an alien and a bit of a powerhouse. IDK who could play up the tech geek archetype, but I'm sure there's a few in the Titans history they could dust off. Bumblebee has always been a favorite too...

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With Robin, that's the part I never liked about Damian taking up the cape. He's too damn young and too much of a badass being trained by the LoA. And that we had all these other Robins running around yet Bruce had an illegitimate son on the other side of the world. I'm still mad over Tim completely owning the Red Robin ID pre-relaunch only to have it reduced to nothing more than a shitty costume with way too many belts and pouches.

DC really needs to get somebody to get all their younger heroes and concepts in order because they're dropping the ball. Every Young Justice title from that group of books [except for Supergirl if she counts] has been cancelled... Superboy, Legion, Blue Beetle, Firestorm, Static, H&D, Teen Titans vol. 1... yeah DC needs to really work on that corner of their universe. If they can't make younger heroes work and bring in new fans Marvel will continue to own their asses.

~KL~

[Michael Heide Heide Finition Find all posts View Profile Close Michael Heide]

That's a good point. With the revolving door that is the "mantle of the Robin", why don't they make the next one a minority? Black, Asian or Mexican? It's not like anybody will question Bruce keeping some little minority kid around the mansion; they'll just assume he's gone Hollywood and adopted some kid from another country like Angelina Jolie or Madonna. And replacing Robin with a minority would make more sense with a hero ID that changes all the time as opposed to some of the others that look so ridiculously forced.

Have Bruce pick some kid up on some globe trotting adventure and bring him home with him.

I'm all for that. And judging by his story in Detective Comics (vol. 2) #27, so is Snyder. But DC seems to have made up their minds to bring Damian back.

[Ωmega Man Guardian of the Universe Find all posts View Profile Close Ωmega Man]

Which is a damn shame. But if you guys are talking about the futuristic Batman with the ethnic Robin I'm game. That one image had me completely sold. I really dug the Green Goblin-esque gliders. And I still hate Damian.

~KL~

[Hypo Lil' Leaguer Find all posts View Profile Close Hypo]

Justice League United #5 Variant Cover by Cameron Stewart



Klarion #1 Variant Cover by Frazer Irving

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DC December Variant Covers by Darwyn Cooke

Action Comics #37



Superman #37



Superman/Wonder Woman #14



Supergirl #37



Batman #37



Detective Comics #37



Batman and Robin #37



Batman/Superman #37



Grayson #5



Batgirl #37



Catwoman #37



Harley Quinn #13



Justice League #37



Justice League United #7



Justice League Dark #37



Aquaman #37



The Flash #37



Teen Titans #5



Wonder Woman #37



He-Man: The Eternity War #1

[Booster Beetle Will break before he bends Find all posts View Profile Close Booster Beetle]

Most of those are terrific

[Hypo Lil' Leaguer Find all posts View Profile Close Hypo]

Yea, we finally get a variant theme that I can get behind.

[Fearless Agent Orange Find all posts View Profile Close Fearless]

Yea, we finally get a variant theme that I can get behind.

Amen!

[Agent Purple The Illustrated Man Find all posts View Profile Close Agent Purple]

Batman, Catwoman, and Wonder Woman. I must own those variants.

[Big Daddy Dave Skywalker Moisture Farmer Find all posts View Profile Close Big Daddy Dave Skywalker]

Now THESE are great variant covers!

[W.West Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close W.West]

I kinda hate that he's given free reign to ignore all New 52 things and just do what he wants to do with costumes. I mean, I'm looking at Wally-Kid Flash!

[Big Daddy Dave Skywalker Moisture Farmer Find all posts View Profile Close Big Daddy Dave Skywalker]

I kinda hate that he's given free reign to ignore all New 52 things and just do what he wants to do with costumes. I mean, I'm looking at Wally-Kid Flash!

I think it's great for the most part. That GLC cover has got a BIT of artistic license going on with the costumes though.