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Andrew NDB 06-11-2018 04:58 PM

Geoff Johns steps down as CCO, starts new production company
 
And is not only writing the script for "Green Lantern Corps," but producing it as well.

https://batman-news.com/2018/06/11/g...lantern-corps/

Trey Strain 06-11-2018 05:01 PM

I predict that the GLC movie will bomb, and that will be the end of Johns. Given the terrible reputation that Green Lantern has got among movie-goers based on the other movie he produced about it, I'm amazed this is going forward.

Hypo 06-11-2018 05:05 PM

Posted in the DC Entertainment thread but the website for Johns' new production company confirms that the GLC movie will feature Hal and John.

Trey Strain 06-11-2018 05:11 PM

Someone posted at CBR that this is one step closer to Johns being gone. I agree with that.

Andrew NDB 06-11-2018 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Trey Strain (Post 954470)
Someone posted at CBR that this is one step closer to Johns being gone. I agree with that.

That's kind of what I get out of this. He was already going to have a hand in writing GLC at WB... he was already going to co-produce it at WB. This "he's forming his own studio!" thing seems meaningless.

I mean, I have a studio, "Devilbane Productions." It's one guy. It's me.

Trey Strain 06-11-2018 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 954471)
That's kind of what I get out of this. He was already going to have a hand in writing GLC at WB... he was already going to co-produce it at WB. This "he's forming his own studio!" thing seems meaningless.

I mean, I have a studio, "Devilbane Productions." It's one guy. It's me.

As they say in sports, "upon further review," I bet they have no intention of making that movie. I bet that as a courtesy to Johns, they're making this look more positive than it really is. The movie will probably just slip into permanent "development."

Andrew NDB 06-11-2018 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Trey Strain (Post 954473)
As they say in sports, "upon further review," I bet they have no intention of making that movie. I bet that a a courtesy to Johns, they're making this look more positive than it really is.

Kind of like how the press releases are all about Diane Nelson leaving to "focus on family" and Snyder had to go be with his, too.

Trey Strain 06-11-2018 06:04 PM

Here's something else. The Aquaman movie has been shot, and Johns produced it. If it looked great to DC, they wouldn't have shuffled him out of their movie management and put him in charge of a unicorn like The Green Lantern Corps. They might be worried about it.

Trey Strain 06-11-2018 06:24 PM

When a producer in television gets fired, a news release is sometimes put out that he has resigned to take on other projects for the network. Usually nothing comes of those projects. It's a way for the man to save face and not have his career damaged if he seeks work elsewhere.

Hypo 06-11-2018 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 954471)
That's kind of what I get out of this. He was already going to have a hand in writing GLC at WB... he was already going to co-produce it at WB. This "he's forming his own studio!" thing seems meaningless.

I mean, I have a studio, "Devilbane Productions." It's one guy. It's me.

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Originally Posted by Trey Strain (Post 954477)
When a producer in television gets fired, a news release is sometimes put out that he has resigned to take on other projects for the network. Usually nothing comes of those projects. It's a way for the man to save face and not have his career damaged if he seeks work elsewhere.

Except Deadline and The Wrap say it's a first look deal, which is pretty exclusive company...as of October 2017 there were only 139 of those across all six major film studios.

There's a lot of circumstantial evidence that point to this being a firing but if it's actually a first look deal then I don't think it is.

Trey Strain 06-11-2018 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Hypo (Post 954478)
Except Deadline and The Wrap say it's a first look deal, which is pretty exclusive company...as of October 2017 there were only 139 of those across all six major film studios.

There's a lot of circumstantial evidence that point to this being a firing but if it's actually a first look deal then I don't think it is.

It's not a firing. It's a second demotion. He was already demoted once in the film hierarchy. But he can write comics for as long as he wants to.

And hey, if he writes a great script for the GLC movie, they might make it despite Green Lantern's being a punchline in the popular culture. But I wouldn't bet on that.

The guy went from comics writer to CCO to comics writer. They had to put a good spin on that.

Trey Strain 06-11-2018 06:55 PM

In a first-look deal, the company has dibs on anything the producer develops. If they don't want it, then he can shop it elsewhere.

In return for that arrangement, the company gives him office space and amenities.

Of course, if a Johns project had DC characters or properties in it, he couldn't shop it elsewhere anyway.

Hypo 06-11-2018 06:59 PM

Demotion, firing, whatever my point was that if this is just spinning something to look good they wouldn't be signing a first look deal with him, as of last year WB only had 25 of those in effect, it's a bit more than just a courtesy.

Trey Strain 06-11-2018 07:03 PM

I think you missed my post above yours. It's not that big a deal for Johns to get.

Hypo 06-11-2018 07:09 PM

No, I'm disagreeing with you, an overall production deal wouldn't be a big deal for Johns' to get, a first look deal would be a big deal, if it is in fact a first look deal, since only a few places have reported it as such.

I mean the fact that WB only had 25 of them last year shows that they're not handing them out to everyone.

Trey Strain 06-11-2018 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Hypo (Post 954483)
No, I'm disagreeing with you, an overall production deal wouldn't be a big deal for Johns' to get, a first look deal would be a big deal, if it is in fact a first look deal, since only a few places have reported it as such.

I mean the fact that WB only had 25 of them last year shows that they're not handing them out to everyone.

A first-look deal is simply free office space and amenities for a producer, in return for the company getting dibs on his projects. Johns already had that as CCO.

Andrew NDB 06-11-2018 07:31 PM

Look, his new company website is up...

http://www.madghostproductions.com/category/film/

... only listing movies it has nothing to do with (beyond the simple virtue of Geoff already having something to do with them before it existed).

Trey Strain 06-11-2018 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 954485)
Look, his new company website is up...

http://www.madghostproductions.com/category/film/

... only listing movies it has nothing to do with (beyond the simple virtue of Geoff already having something to do with them before it existed).

I notice he doesn't list Green Lantern and Justice League on there. I suspect he might later take Aquaman off his home page and maybe Shazam too. We'll see.

Trey Strain 06-12-2018 07:27 AM

Oh, and Dave...

Geoff's new line of Kill Zone comics sounds an awful lot like this, doesn't it?

http://community.comicbookresources....g-minis-for-DC

Mister.Weirdo 06-13-2018 06:17 AM

Probably for the best, but it does signal that WB's director for the DCEU continues to be "directionless". I just hope Shazam and Aquaman turn out well at this point honestly.

Big Daddy Dave Skywalker 06-13-2018 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Trey Strain (Post 954499)
Oh, and Dave...

Geoff's new line of Kill Zone comics sounds an awful lot like this, doesn't it?

http://community.comicbookresources....g-minis-for-DC

I think Johns/DC is poaching your ideas again! You are onto something here!!!

Trey Strain 06-14-2018 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Daddy Dave Skywalker (Post 954533)
I think Johns/DC is poaching your ideas again! You are onto something here!!!

When something happens THAT many times, it's not a coincidence. But there was no "poaching." I wanted them to do that stuff.

Booster Beetle 06-14-2018 02:11 AM

He was being sarcastic ya maroon

Trey Strain 06-14-2018 04:05 AM

I'm aware of that, whiz kid. Thanks for your help though.

This is what I posted at CBR today. And nobody disputed it, because they knew it was true.

***

A lot of what I'll called for DC to do, they've done it or seem likely to. Let's see...
-- Twice-monthly publishing
-- John Stewart in the JL, in place of Baz and Cruz.
-- The Golden Age JSA brought to this era as young characters.
-- A Flash team title.
-- A line of minis that feature second-tier characters.
-- The LoS brought to this era permanently.

Two other proposals that economics will probably make necessary sooner or later:
-- Junking decompression.
-- Printing floppies on newsprint.

Looking less hopeful, but not impossible:
-- Powering down the most extravagantly powered characters.
-- Junking the emotional spectrum.
-- Finding something for Baz and Cruz to do besides be Green Lanterns.
-- A Charlton team title.

I don't have a lot more that I'd like to change!

Booster Beetle 06-14-2018 01:06 PM

Or maybe they didn’t dispute it because they’re just as tired of your delusions of grandeur as we are


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