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W.West 09-20-2011 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth_Primus (Post 636442)
I didn't check out the preview, but I'll be definitely picking up a copy tomorrow.

same

W.West 09-21-2011 01:40 PM

Azzarello Scares up a New Take on Wonder Woman

Mister.Weirdo 09-21-2011 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by W.West (Post 636789)

Sounds like a forced new take on the character.

W.West 09-21-2011 03:02 PM

The New 52 Interviews: Wonder Woman

Mister.Weirdo 09-21-2011 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by W.West (Post 636820)

Wonder Woman as a horror book! Jeez I'd love to see how that long approach will last.

W.West 09-21-2011 05:18 PM

MTV GEEK: Artist Cliff Chiang About The Brand New Wonder Woman

Agent Purple 09-21-2011 05:25 PM

Having read the issue, I think it's overall good, though Apollo and Hera are being total douches.

Which is admittedly typical of Hera, but I didn't expect it of Apollo.

Darth_Primus 09-21-2011 10:26 PM

The first issue wasn't what I expected. I thought it might be another reimaging of the character. Instead they went into another direction where Wonder Woman seemly like she was a secondary character and Zola was the primary character. I thought it was an entertaining issue, but lacking something that I can't quite put my figure on yet.

JohnnyV 09-21-2011 11:44 PM

Yea, definitely one of the most action-packed Azzarello books I've read. He's generally a slow burn type writer, but he really just jumped into this. And I think that's the problem, he jumped into it too fast. All this shit is going on, and I'm not sure what's happening.

A bit of a clusterfuck, but a fun clusterfuck. I'm intrigued by what's to come though, which is more than I can say for most of these #1 relaunches.

W.West 09-22-2011 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyV (Post 637132)
Yea, definitely one of the most action-packed Azzarello books I've read. He's generally a slow burn type writer, but he really just jumped into this. And I think that's the problem, he jumped into it too fast. All this shit is going on, and I'm not sure what's happening.

A bit of a clusterfuck, but a fun clusterfuck. I'm intrigued by what's to come though, which is more than I can say for most of these #1 relaunches.

1. Shut the fuck up and go read 100 Bullets already!!! You're the worst Azzarello fan ever!

2. How is this a "clusterfuck"? There's ONE story and barely anything happens in it. A girl gets attacked, she miraclously gets Wonder Woman's help, and WW saves the day only to find an injured Hermes giving her cryptic messages as he dies. Elsewhere, Apollo uses three loose women as an oracle to find out what his father is up to...and then kills them.

Dr. Naysay 09-22-2011 02:09 AM

Anybody else tired of reading about the treachery and betrayal of the Greek Gods and their petty ambitions?

I fucking read D'aulaires as a kid and Homer in High School. *yawn*

W.West 09-22-2011 02:26 AM

Well yes and no. It's certainly nothing new and even when they wear modern clothing and drink champagne it doesn't make it that much fresher(yet), but that's the interest in writing/reading about Gods though right? That they would use the world like a chess pawns? That part of it still interests me.

Dr. Naysay 09-22-2011 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by W.West (Post 637183)
Well yes and no. It's certainly nothing new and even when they wear modern clothing and drink champagne it doesn't make it that much fresher(yet), but that's the interest in writing/reading about Gods though right? That they would use the world like a chess pawns? That part of it still interests me.

Well any story well told will still interest me... it just seems like any time I pay attention to Wonder Woman it's basically the same story.

I dunno.... maybe it's that way with every character...

JohnnyV 09-22-2011 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by W.West (Post 637172)
1. Shut the fuck up and go read 100 Bullets already!!! You're the worst Azzarello fan ever!

2. How is this a "clusterfuck"? There's ONE story and barely anything happens in it. A girl gets attacked, she miraclously gets Wonder Woman's help, and WW saves the day only to find an injured Hermes giving her cryptic messages as he dies. Elsewhere, Apollo uses three loose women as an oracle to find out what his father is up to...and then kills them.

Ok...

A.) I've read 100 Bullets, so ease up there junior. And most of those stories are slow burns, that develop characters which lead to a action packed climax.

B.) "Clusterfuck" meaning that there are all sorts of characters being introduced, but nothing really develops for anything of them. Then you have the action panels, when WW is fighting the centaurs with the Oracles conversing in the captions. Issue just felt like random elements thrown together in a mess.. i.e a clusterfuck.

W.West 09-22-2011 11:26 AM

How can you say this is one of the most action packed issues you've ever read when half of 100 Bullets was over-the-top violence? Whatever. I don't mean to jump over your feelings, just seemed like really weird comments.

Darth_Primus 09-22-2011 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Naysay (Post 637178)
Anybody else tired of reading about the treachery and betrayal of the Greek Gods and their petty ambitions?

I fucking read D'aulaires as a kid and Homer in High School. *yawn*

I'm somewhat tired of it, especially since the last Wonder Woman story arc was The Odyssey that really didn't anything to redefine the character.

This just feels like another Wonder Woman storyline rather than a relaunch. However, it's starting off much better than the previous one and I'm very certain will end much better as well.

Keyser Soze 09-22-2011 11:47 PM

My review of Wonder Woman #1:

http://johnleescomics.wordpress.com/...onder-woman-1/

JohnnyV 09-23-2011 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by W.West (Post 637261)
How can you say this is one of the most action packed issues you've ever read when half of 100 Bullets was over-the-top violence? Whatever. I don't mean to jump over your feelings, just seemed like really weird comments.

Yes, over-the-top violence for the CLIMAX. Meaning his traditional 100 Bullets stories was to build up the characters, and the mystery behind the characters. Then hit you with heavy stuff later down the road. If you read his DC work, it's the same as well.

All I was getting at is he seemed to jump right into the action with this, without building up to it.

Jack-O-Lantern 09-26-2011 07:15 PM

Can someone help me here? Does this issue/arc take place a few years in the past like Action and Justice League do? I thought I read somewhere a month or so ago that it would. Maybe I'm just remembering wrong. Someone set me straight please.

Marvelous Iggy 09-26-2011 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack-O-Lantern (Post 638501)
Can someone help me here? Does this issue/arc take place a few years in the past like Action and Justice League do? I thought I read somewhere a month or so ago that it would. Maybe I'm just remembering wrong. Someone set me straight please.

It takes place in the here and now.

Darth_Primus 09-26-2011 11:57 PM

I thought it was interesting that Diana was in a flat in London, which is where she was set up during Flashpoint.

W.West 10-03-2011 06:38 PM

WONDER WOMAN artist Cliff Chiang takes us through the process of designing Hermes with series writer Brian Azzarello.




http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/files/2011/10/hermes-1.jpg

We went through a few different looks for Hermes, starting with a Western look, complete with duster and floppy hat. Brian actually wanted him naked underneath, but I thought itíd make Hermes just look like a creepy guy on the subway.

http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/files/2...-2-231x300.jpg


In any case, it didnít feel mythic enough, so Azz suggested bird feet. I liked the sound of that, and tried incorporating into a second design, with a Japanese motif. We were trying to find analogues for the classic Hermes metal cap, like the one worn by the FTD icon, or the Golden Age Flash. So I tried using a Japanese farmerís hat. We thought it looked cool, but it didnít feel new.

http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/files/2...-3-231x300.jpg

http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/files/2...-4-231x300.jpg


With versions 3 and 4, we looked more towards avant garde fashion, and I gave him a sort of golden bicycle helmet. With version 4, I liked how weird and tall he was looking, but Brian still had something else in mind. Like an updated doughboy, with some wispy facial hair and a weak chin. I had trouble visualizing it.

http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/files/2...35-225x300.jpg

http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/files/2...5A-231x300.jpg

Brian sent me a few sketches, which I incorporated into Hermesí final design. Heís changed even from this stage, getting taller and more alien-looking. It was important to give Hermes a really distinctive look, since heís one of the first gods we get a good look at and heís a crucial member of Wonder Womanís crew.


W.West 10-10-2011 01:47 PM

Wonder Woman’s all-new origin *REVEALED


http://i51.tinypic.com/295tzkp.jpg
(Cliff Chiang’s cover to WONDER WOMAN #5)

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In DC COMICS-THE NEW 52, Wonder Woman will have a new origin, in which she is the daughter of Hippolyta … and Zeus! In recent interviews, writer Brian Azzarello and artist Cliff Chiang have teased that readers should expect the unexpected in this edgier, horror take on the superhero genre *and the king of the gods will ensure that nothing goes as planned for his defiant daughter.

Originally created by the goddess Aphrodite and raised to perfection on the Amazon island of Themiscyra, the newest incarnation of Wonder Woman has a new costume and now a new origin * but she remains Wonder Woman. Strong. Proud. Fearless. WONDER WOMAN is the 12th title in DC COMICS-THE NEW 52 to sell more than a 100K copies.

Hypo 10-10-2011 01:47 PM

Wonder Womanís all-new origin *REVEALED

"Chosen" 10-10-2011 01:48 PM

Was posting the link, nevermind


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