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Hypo 09-12-2013 01:54 PM

Harry Potter Thread
 
Harry Potter Spin-Off Movie Coming, JK Rowling Writing Screenplay
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Warner Bros. Entertainment today announced an expanded creative partnership with world-renowned, best-selling author J.K. Rowling. At the center of the partnership is a new film series from Rowling’s world of witches and wizards, inspired by Harry Potter’s Hogwarts textbook “Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them” and the adventures of the book’s fictitious author, Newt Scamander. The announcement was made by Kevin Tsujihara, Chief Executive Officer, Warner Bros. Entertainment.

“Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them” will be an original story and will mark Rowling’s screenwriting debut. It is planned as the first picture in a new film series. Set in the wizarding world, the story will feature magical creatures and characters, some of which will be familiar to devoted Harry Potter fans.

“Although it will be set in the worldwide community of witches and wizards where I was so happy for seventeen years, ‘Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them’ is neither a prequel nor a sequel to the Harry Potter series, but an extension of the wizarding world,” said Rowling. “The laws and customs of the hidden magical society will be familiar to anyone who has read the Harry Potter books or seen the films, but Newt’s story will start in New York, seventy years before Harry’s gets underway.”

“We are incredibly honored that Jo has chosen to partner with Warner Bros. on this exciting new exploration of the world of wizardry which has been tremendously successful across all of our businesses,” said Tsujihara. “She is an extraordinary writer, who ignited a reading revolution around the world, which then became an unprecedented film phenomenon. We know that audiences will be as excited as we are to see what her brilliant and boundless imagination conjures up for us.”

In addition to the film series, “Fantastic Beasts” will also be developed across the Studio’s video game, consumer products and digital initiatives businesses, including enhanced links with Pottermore.com, Rowling’s digital online experience built around the Harry Potter stories.

The Studio’s expanded partnership with Rowling also covers the continued expansion of its Harry Potter activities, including the wonderful Wizarding World of Harry Potter theme parks in conjunction with partner Universal Parks and Resorts (currently in Orlando, FL; opening in Hollywood, CA and Osaka, Japan), digital initiatives (including Pottermore), video games, consumer products and visitor attractions.

In addition, Warner Bros. will serve as the worldwide TV distributor (excluding the U.K.) of J.K. Rowling’s upcoming television adaptation for the BBC of “The Casual Vacancy,” her best-selling first novel aimed at adult audiences. This miniseries begins production in 2014.

The relationship will be managed in London by Neil Blair of The Blair Partnership, Rowling’s literary agency, and Josh Berger, President & Managing Director, Warner Bros. UK, Ireland and Spain, who will serve as Warner Bros.’ chief business contact for all J.K. Rowling initiatives going forward.

Rowling’s expanded quote regarding “Fantastic Beasts” is below:

“It all started when Warner Bros. came to me with the suggestion of turning ‘Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them’ into a film. I thought it was a fun idea, but the idea of seeing Newt Scamander, the supposed author of ‘Fantastic Beasts,’ realized by another writer was difficult. Having lived for so long in my fictional universe, I feel very protective of it and I already knew a lot about Newt. As hard-core Harry Potter fans will know, I liked him so much that I even married his grandson, Rolf, to one of my favourite characters from the Harry Potter series, Luna Lovegood.

As I considered Warners’ proposal, an idea took shape that I couldn’t dislodge. That is how I ended up pitching my own idea for a film to Warner Bros.

Although it will be set in the worldwide community of witches and wizards where I was so happy for seventeen years, ‘Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them’ is neither a prequel nor a sequel to the Harry Potter series, but an extension of the wizarding world. The laws and customs of the hidden magical society will be familiar to anyone who has read the Harry Potter books or seen the films, but Newt’s story will start in New York, seventy years before Harry’s gets underway.

I particularly want to thank Kevin Tsujihara of Warner Bros. for his support in this project, which would not have happened without him. I always said that I would only revisit the wizarding world if I had an idea that I was really excited about and this is it.”

Mister Ed 09-12-2013 02:13 PM

Not sure what to think about this. Somehow I'd be happier about it if she had decided to write a series of books about the character that had then been optioned for a screenplay. I'm not thrilled about the studio's desire for more movies being the driving force behind this expansion of the Potter mythos.

At the very least, I hope (if there is such a thing) that she writes the novelization of the movie.

IonFan 09-12-2013 02:38 PM

:rollseyes: who didn't see that coming, they tried to make other cash-cows like Potter but none of them seemed worked so now they've gone back to the cow that always delivers

chivalrous 09-12-2013 03:20 PM

It'll be interesting to see - I wonder how they're going to drive the mythos forward? Are you going to follow Charlie Weasley on one of his safaris for the Ministry of Magical Creatures?

Frankly I'd rather see it as a TV series loosely based on Steve Irwin with Charlie and Hagrid getting their arses handed to them by that week's feature creature

Mister.Weirdo 09-12-2013 07:20 PM

Is J.K. Rowling selling out?

Mister Ed 09-12-2013 07:29 PM

Kind of sounds like it. I don't consider writing more stuff set in that world to be "selling out", but when it seems clear that the impetus for doing so is that WB came to her wanting more material for additional movies, well... yeah, writing more of this stuff for THAT reason sounds suspiciously like selling out to me.

Of course, I doubt I'll care if it ends up being good. Selling out is only really annoying (at least to me) when it produces inferior product just to grab some cash. If you produce quality product just to grab some cash, why should I care?

Michael Heide 09-12-2013 08:12 PM

Is it April 1st already?!

Lantern A-train 09-12-2013 08:17 PM

Pretty sure this one isn't a joke.

Mister.Weirdo 09-13-2013 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Mister Ed (Post 807842)
Kind of sounds like it. I don't consider writing more stuff set in that world to be "selling out", but when it seems clear that the impetus for doing so is that WB came to her wanting more material for additional movies, well... yeah, writing more of this stuff for THAT reason sounds suspiciously like selling out to me.

Of course, I doubt I'll care if it ends up being good. Selling out is only really annoying (at least to me) when it produces inferior product just to grab some cash. If you produce quality product just to grab some cash, why should I care?

I hope the film's are good too.

I have my doubts though.

W.West 09-13-2013 05:53 AM

She pitched it to them.


Has anyone the book? I haven't and I guess until I do, I feel pretty uncomfortable with her as a screenwriter. Its a completely different process than writing a novel. And even writing great novels isn't a sure thing, even for her.

Still, a New York set 20yr old wizard by JK Rowling...exciting.

Mister Ed 09-13-2013 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by W.West (Post 807915)
She pitched it to them.


Has anyone the book? I haven't and I guess until I do, I feel pretty uncomfortable with her as a screenwriter. Its a completely different process than writing a novel. And even writing great novels isn't a sure thing, even for her.

Still, a New York set 20yr old wizard by JK Rowling...exciting.

I've read the book. It isn't really the sort of thing you base a movie on unless you are desperate for material. It isn't going to be a true adaptation, let's put it that way. The book is what it sounds like, a reference work about various magical beasts. There's no story there.

And according to the article she did NOT pitch it to them.

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It all started when Warner Bros. came to me with the suggestion of turning ‘Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them’ into a film.
It was the other way around, which is a big part of why I'm wary.

Michael Heide 09-13-2013 12:36 PM

So it's D&D Monster Manual: The Movie.

Great.

JohnnyV 09-13-2013 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by W.West (Post 807915)
She pitched it to them.


Has anyone the book? I haven't and I guess until I do, I feel pretty uncomfortable with her as a screenwriter. Its a completely different process than writing a novel. And even writing great novels isn't a sure thing, even for her.

Still, a New York set 20yr old wizard by JK Rowling...exciting.

Couldn't disagree more. Having a strong narrative, sense of empathy, and confidence in your writing is what matters. Structure can be learned and you can always have someone edit a script and tell someone something might not work for film.

Interesting that this is the route they're going, I kind of get the sense that this is WB's way of saying "We promise this isn't a sequel and we're not selling out, so please don't hate us for it but we'd still like to milk you for millions more dollars." Having J.K actually write it is definitely a strong first step, and I'd be wary about saying she's sold out because of this. In terms of making money, she sold out YEARS ago. If she wanted to she could live on her Harry Potter private island and sip away on mai tais for the rest of her life.

Mister Ed 09-13-2013 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyV (Post 807932)
Having J.K actually write it is definitely a strong first step, and I'd be wary about saying she's sold out because of this. In terms of making money, she sold out YEARS ago. If she wanted to she could live on her Harry Potter private island and sip away on mai tais for the rest of her life.

True, but to me the more worrying form of "selling out" isn't licensing other products based on your work. It is when you start adding to your body of work itself solely because somebody threw money at you to do so. Prior to this, I don't feel like she has ever written more Harry Potter material expressly because somebody else wanted more to make money off of.

I could be wrong, though. I don't know the actual genesis behind "The Tales of Beedle the Bard", whether that volume was her idea, or pitched to her by others wanting something more to sell. EDIT: I'm still not sure whose idea it was to make this volume, but it, too, was a charity effort.

I guess technically "Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them" and "Quidditch Through the Ages" (will that be the next film series once this new one is done? ;) ) might have been written at the request of others, but they were for charity.

JohnnyV 09-13-2013 01:37 PM

Well, you have to think of this from her perspective. She's created this world that millions upon millions of people around the world enjoy. All of these great things - movies, video games, an entire section of a theme park is dedicated to her work. Why wouldn't you want those good times to continue?

Now, I can't speak for her personally, however, I'd be extremely leery to immediately call her a sellout. If she was a sellout, she'd have given up on this series years ago. "Selling out" means you're no longer doing it for the right reasons, which I think will be pretty immediate by the quality of the work. Calling it that at this juncture is extremely premature.

Mister Ed 09-13-2013 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyV (Post 807940)
"Selling out" means you're no longer doing it for the right reasons, which I think will be pretty immediate by the quality of the work. Calling it that at this juncture is extremely premature.

I dunno. I think you are right about what "selling out" means, but I don't think that necessarily means the work will be poor. You CAN do something well, but for the wrong reasons, I think. "Selling out" is not equivalent to "phoning it in", even though the two so often are congruent.

All I'm saying is that this looks like she's adding to the Potter world only because WB wants some more hit movies and asked her about making more. If that's really the reason she's doing it, I'd say that's "selling out" even if the work is high quality. But like I said, as long as the work is good, I'm not really going to be critical of the decision. At the very least, she seems to have insisted that SHE be the one to expand the Potter-verse through these films. If she'd just given somebody else permission to write new stories in that world, just so they could make more money, THAT would be more troubling, IMHO.

W.West 09-13-2013 03:17 PM

They came to her asking for continuation, and she chose THIS is what I'm saying. Its not like they said "Here's what we're looking to do, what do you say?" I think it was more like "Hey, we really think the magical world can be expanded. Is there anything you've already written that you think YOU would like to see as a film series?"

JohnnyV 09-13-2013 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mister Ed (Post 807950)
I dunno. I think you are right about what "selling out" means, but I don't think that necessarily means the work will be poor. You CAN do something well, but for the wrong reasons, I think. "Selling out" is not equivalent to "phoning it in", even though the two so often are congruent.

There are always exceptions to the rule, but in the creative world it's typically easy to see when someone creates something they have zero passion for and they're just doing it for the money...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...uperman_iv.jpg

This will be more easily apparent, IMO, since we'll be able to look at it from the script level. A shitty script is extremely easy to spot, and since we know JK can write well, we'll be able to find out if she's selling out or is truly wanting to continue the stories for the world she's created.

Look at Nicholas Cage for a prime example of this in the creative industry. The man is a great actor, HE REALLY IS. Yet, years ago, he fell into debt big time. So what are the differences between Nicholas Cage's shitty performances, compared to performances where he looked like he deserved an AA nomination?

Mister Ed 09-13-2013 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by W.West (Post 807954)
They came to her asking for continuation, and she chose THIS is what I'm saying. Its not like they said "Here's what we're looking to do, what do you say?" I think it was more like "Hey, we really think the magical world can be expanded. Is there anything you've already written that you think YOU would like to see as a film series?"

No, they came to her specifically to ask about making a movie from that book. Or so the article says.

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It all started when Warner Bros. came to me with the suggestion of turning ‘Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them’ into a film.
I don't see how you can get anything from that quote except that WB had the idea of making a film based on that book. So in effect, it IS exactly like they said, "Here's what we're looking to do, what do you say?". At that point they weren't even asking her to write it. That was her idea because she was uncomfortable with somebody else telling the story THEY had decided to film.

Sylent_Asassin 09-13-2013 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyV (Post 807958)
Look at Nicholas Cage for a prime example of this in the creative industry. The man is a great actor, HE REALLY IS.

:spritz:

He has FAR too many crappy performances to be considered a great actor, IMO. Mediocre would be the word I would use, especially if you were to aggregate all of his performances. I wouldn't quite put him in Keanu Reeves territory, however, he's skirting along the borders, that's for sure. ;)

JohnnyV 09-13-2013 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Sylent_Asassin (Post 808014)
:spritz:

He has FAR too many crappy performances to be considered a great actor, IMO. Mediocre would be the word I would use, especially if you were to aggregate all of his performances. I wouldn't quite put him in Keanu Reeves territory, however, he's skirting along the borders, that's for sure. ;)

I would completely agree with you if Nicholas Cage did nothing but turn in bad performances. With movies like Raising Arizona, Bad Lieutenant, Adaptation, and certainly others I'm not thinking of; it's such a stark difference between his dreck - Ghost Rider 1 & 2, Wicker Man. And he has to know there's a difference, and the only way that makes sense to me is if Nicholas Cage is just doing the shit to pay his bills.

You HEAR ME Nicholas Cage...you have performed well...

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8...hv5ho1_500.gif

Mister.Weirdo 09-13-2013 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Mister Ed (Post 807998)
No, they came to her specifically to ask about making a movie from that book. Or so the article says.



I don't see how you can get anything from that quote except that WB had the idea of making a film based on that book. So in effect, it IS exactly like they said, "Here's what we're looking to do, what do you say?". At that point they weren't even asking her to write it. That was her idea because she was uncomfortable with somebody else telling the story THEY had decided to film.

Yup!

Evergreen City 09-14-2013 03:20 AM

The world of witches and wizards, set back in the 1950s or therabouts, fantastic beasts, history, and a rated-PG video game to match. What's not to like. Look for it in 3-D at a theatre near you. Fun for the summer of 2015. Whee!

Space Cop 09-14-2013 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mister Ed (Post 807933)
I guess technically "Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them" and "Quidditch Through the Ages" (will that be the next film series once this new one is done? ;) ) ...

That would be the first Potter movie my mother wouldn't see. She always moans about the Quidditch bits in the books and the movies (I don't like them either).

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Originally Posted by JohnnyV (Post 807958)
There are always exceptions to the rule, but in the creative world it's typically easy to see when someone creates something they have zero passion for and they're just doing it for the money...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...uperman_iv.jpg

I don't think that's a good example. S4 was kind of a pet project for Reeve. He was very adamant about the anti-nuclear message. If anything, it suffered from the opposite problem. Like an Ed Wood movie, it was all passion and vision with no follow through or polish.

W.West 09-16-2013 10:43 PM

WB CEO Kevin Tsujihara

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I think one at a time, the whole bid is that we are going the film franchise and build off of kind of the success. We announced today that we are going that J is writing a screenplay for the first time based on fantastic piece and where to find them, it was – it’s a book that was written about a character in the world who was commander and professor at Hogwarts and history. She is taking that and expanding upon that to create a screenplay which we hope is going to extend both the franchise, a couple of new franchise quite frankly. And so the impact is not only on our theatrical side but all kind of parts of our business.


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