What is happening to the Green Lantern titles?

[TEN_RINGS Senior Corps Member Find all posts View Profile Close TEN_RINGS]

I do not understand what is going on in the DC universe. How can so called professional writers have no idea what to do with these characters?....How many times has Hal went renegade? how many retcons have we seen? I wonder if there are any fans truly happy with all that is happening?

I just put the question to the board.....What The Heck Is happening To Greeb Lantern?

[myuserid Lantern Hex Find all posts View Profile Close myuserid]

I'm looking for Didio to be gone soon.

DC is in a shambles right now. Something's gotta give.

[Trey Strain Guardian of the Universe Find all posts View Profile Close Trey Strain]

There are many things that should never be done again in the franchise. I started a thread about it a while back.

[Big Daddy Dave Skywalker Moisture Farmer Find all posts View Profile Close Big Daddy Dave Skywalker]

If you look at the sales numbers for DC titles and GL family of titles, I can't imagine something isn't going to change soon. At least before the summer. When sales dive, your choices are drastic change or cancellation. Sinestro is already in the cancellation zone, Omega Men is going, and Edge Of Oblivion is a mini series. DC should get rid of all of them and circle the horses around GL proper, and concentrate on making it the very best title it can be.

[Space Cop The Dandy Find all posts View Profile Close Space Cop]

... DC should get rid of all of them and circle the horses around GL proper, and concentrate on making it the very best title it can be.

That seems to imply that they have X amount of talent to spend and they're spreading it too thin. It's not as if they could take the top three writers and the top three artists and assign them to GL alternately.

Anyway, when properly conceived, the scopes of GL and a GLC title should be quite different.

[Trey Strain Guardian of the Universe Find all posts View Profile Close Trey Strain]

That seems to imply that they have X amount of talent to spend and they're spreading it too thin. It's not as if they could take the top three writers and the top three artists and assign them to GL alternately.

Anyway, when properly conceived, the scopes of GL and a GLC title should be quite different.

If there are two GL titles, one should be Earth based. If there are four or more, two should be Earth based. That alone would be a game changer.

[myuserid Lantern Hex Find all posts View Profile Close myuserid]

Besides Scott Snyder, I can't think off the top of my head any "big name" writers that DC has.

There's got to be a reason all the big names are at Marvel.

[Lundonj Sinestro's Sparring Partner Find all posts View Profile Close Lundonj]

I think DC is headed for another reboot or at the very least a soft reset with new number ones and creative teams this spring.

That aside, this Renegade storyline has little to do with any of Hal's previous 'falls' from grace. I didn't like this one at first, but it is growing on me.

The comic reading audience always makes two simultaneous demands over the last 20 years: Give me something new and Give me something different.

If we get status quo, people whine.

If they try something new, like Hal pretending to be a bad guy, people whine.

GLC, no idea why they are doing what they are doing. Has to be a reason that is a cluster*&% and hoping the explanation happens by the end of the new, new mini-series.


-Don

[Ωmega Man Guardian of the Universe Find all posts View Profile Close Ωmega Man]

DC put a lot of faith in GL spin-offs because of Geoff Johns' being the one who came up with a lot of it [EVS never got proper credit]. Red Lanterns wasn't worth trying. Larfleeze couldn't be taken seriously. Even New Guardians was thought up during Blackest Night, and the concept still didn't hold fans' interest long. Sinestro was the obvious go-to title, but now after everything else it seems like too little too late.

GL and GLC need to get back to basics. If a third title is still a possibility let Kyle be the feature and if it isn't Power of Ion related make the title about the Honor Guard. And GL or a third title SHOULD be Earth-based, but knowing DC that's the last thing we'll get.

If Hal can't sell a series for long on his own bring back the sector partners concept and let Hal and Kyle rotate stories in GL on Earth and 2814. It'd be win/win for everyone.

~M~

[Big Daddy Dave Skywalker Moisture Farmer Find all posts View Profile Close Big Daddy Dave Skywalker]

At this point, DC can't even get ONE GL title right. I'm past the point of daydreaming about three or so perfect titles and what their premises would be in a perfect world. Let it all burn. Maybe one good title could come out of it but I highly doubt it. Not until something big changes at DC with an overhaul of the total line of books, and name talent is brought back to the company.

[Ωmega Man Guardian of the Universe Find all posts View Profile Close Ωmega Man]

I enjoyed the concept of renegade Hal, but the execution just wasn't what it needed to be and Virgo and Trapper are just completely useless to me as side characters and supporting cast. More consistent art would've made a big difference as well...

~M~

[Big Daddy Dave Skywalker Moisture Farmer Find all posts View Profile Close Big Daddy Dave Skywalker]

I enjoyed the concept of renegade Hal, but the execution just wasn't what it needed to be and Virgo and Trapper are just completely useless to me as side characters and supporting cast. More consistent art would've made a big difference as well...

~M~

I agree with that to an extent. The premise isn't bad. On paper it's different, has a lot of potential, and nothing permanent that can't change back to a "real" GL title in a moment's notice. It has a wannabe Firefly thing going on that I really don't have a problem with.

But like you said the execution is just lacking. The characters are bland and need more effort put into them. They could use one more passenger on the ship as part of the regular cast. And Hal? Would anyone even know that's supposed to be Hal Jordan if they didn't tell us? If the names were changed I would never know that's supposed to be Jordan. It's like they made a good pitch in the offices about where to take GL for a couple of years that impressed the editors, but when they got out there to do it they couldn't breathe life into the damn thing.

[Space Cop The Dandy Find all posts View Profile Close Space Cop]

I still say the past two issues of GL were a good turnaround/step in the right direction. I haven't given up.

And Sinestro has been more hit than miss for me. Unfortunately, the numbers won't keep it alive.

[Trey Strain Guardian of the Universe Find all posts View Profile Close Trey Strain]

DC put a lot of faith in GL spin-offs because of Geoff Johns' being the one who came up with a lot of it [EVS never got proper credit]. Red Lanterns wasn't worth trying. Larfleeze couldn't be taken seriously. Even New Guardians was thought up during Blackest Night, and the concept still didn't hold fans' interest long. Sinestro was the obvious go-to title, but now after everything else it seems like too little too late.

GL and GLC need to get back to basics. If a third title is still a possibility let Kyle be the feature and if it isn't Power of Ion related make the title about the Honor Guard. And GL or a third title SHOULD be Earth-based, but knowing DC that's the last thing we'll get.

If Hal can't sell a series for long on his own bring back the sector partners concept and let Hal and Kyle rotate stories in GL on Earth and 2814. It'd be win/win for everyone.

~M~

I don't agree about Kyle because I think he has faded too much to use that way, but that's a good diagnosis about everything else.

[Trey Strain Guardian of the Universe Find all posts View Profile Close Trey Strain]

The execution on these titles has been poor, but more important than that, they were bad concepts. The Red Lanterns, The New Guardians, Sinestro and Larfleeze should have borne the logo "DC Flops." But if you went to any message board besides this one and said so, you were peevishly attacked as a troll.

Fuck fanboys. Almost any bad idea that a comics company comes up with, they're gung-ho about it. And they always forget afterwards that you were right to dismiss it and they were wrong to support it. Then when you dismiss the next bad idea, they're still completely confident that they're right about it and you're wrong.

Of course, the bigger problem is, why do the writers who the comics companies employ tend to come up with such bad ideas and to execute them so poorly? Why does that happen so reliably? I can understand fanboys being clueless and pigheaded, but what's the excuse of the industry's professional writers?