The DC Comics Thread

[Mister Ed Horse of a Different Color Find all posts View Profile Close Mister Ed]

Well the only reason there is a feel of lookie lookie is because Batwoman was a new character.

Not technically new, but obscure enough that she might as well have been, so the point stands.

[IonFan Forum Member Find all posts View Profile Close IonFan]

Ionfan- I think you should worry more about your other activities that people make fun of you for rather than a comic character you have no control over that's in a book you don't read.

please explain

And how immature or redneck is someone that thinks its funny that a character in a fictional book you may or made not read is gay?

what can i say we rednecks like to make fun of the gays (not me mind you, i could care less if your gay or not, whatever makes you happy is fine by me)

And how insecure are you too feel like you're getting screwed over because said character is gay?

i'd say very, i can get away from a-hole friends but not from family

[BTomaselli Corps Honor Guard Find all posts View Profile Close BTomaselli]

I said it before and I'll say it again - the decision to turn Alan Scott gay is nothing more than a publicity stunt. As far as I'm concerned it has no merit, no purpose.

Couldn't agree more. Just makes my decision to stop reading comics all that much easier.

[TheGoatLantern Beta-Lantern Find all posts View Profile Close TheGoatLantern]

Other activities such as soliciting sex and such. It would seem that in my part of the world spending money on something most get for free is grounds for any and everyone to give you more than enough harrasment to last a lifetime. Reading a comic with a gay character? Not so much. And I fail to see why reading a comic with a character that is gay is silly or awkward, does your brother think that homosexuality is somehow transferred by reading the book? Or are you afraid his logic is right and that by him saying it out loud you will somehow find yourself looking through the male seeking male section of craigslist?

[Lantern A-train Guardian of the Universe Find all posts View Profile Close Lantern A-train]

I dunno why you even bother TGL. That kind of stupidity is not even worth acknowledging.

[IonFan Forum Member Find all posts View Profile Close IonFan]

Other activities such as soliciting sex and such. It would seem that in my part of the world spending money on something most get for free is grounds for any and everyone to give you more than enough harrasment to last a lifetime.

that i don't care about, yes i do get h@ll for it but after all it is with a woman so.......

Reading a comic with a gay character? Not so much. And I fail to see why reading a comic with a character that is gay is silly or awkward, does your brother think that homosexuality is somehow transferred by reading the book?

no clue

Or are you afraid his logic is right and that by him saying it out loud you will somehow find yourself looking through the male seeking male section of craigslist?

to answer that would more then likely get me banned so

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[JohnnyV Pictionary Master Find all posts View Profile Close JohnnyV]

So now that Alan Scott has been turned gay, his children (Obsidian and Jade) have no doubt been erased completely from DC continuity. At best the decision to turn Alan Scott gay is simply a publicity stunt.

I am not at all pleased with the decision to turn Alan Scott into a homosexual. I honestly think the entire story will probably be as poorly written as Cry for Justice was (another bad James Robinson story).

True, but they could always show up. There are plenty of gay men who have helped birth biological children. Some people's sexuality isn't defined until much later in life. For some, their sexuality is always in flux and are just attracted to who they're attracted to. We shall see.

[Mister.Weirdo Guardian of the Universe Find all posts View Profile Close Mister.Weirdo]

True, but they could always show up. There are plenty of gay men who have helped birth biological children. Some people's sexuality isn't defined until much later in life. For some, their sexuality is always in flux and are just attracted to who they're attracted to. We shall see.

If they do show up I have a feeling it's going to be for a really stupid reason.

[Tazer That Evil, Yellow Bastiche Find all posts View Profile Close Tazer]

Yo.

Robinson and DC did this for one reason and one reason only. To draw in female yaoi fans. If you don't know what that is there is this magical thing called GOOGLE, ask it a question and you get a answer. I'm not explaining it here.

But given the amount of female generated yaoi fan-fic and art in the US, I can see DC honestly trying to draw that crowd in. And the Dialogue on those preview pages prove it. It reads just like every yaoi i have ever seen.

so this was done to attract the pervy femmes who like to do fanfics involving gay men?

considering how small a niche of female fandom that faction likely is, I dont think thats too likely........

I honestly don't see why it should be so hard to tell a story about a character being gay. Rucka integrated the aspects of Batwoman's sexuality perfectly into Elegy. The story was interesting, her sexuality didn't dwarf other aspects of the narrative, and the dialogue was natural and flowing.

Now, it's hard to do all of that as well as Rucka did...but this is beyond horrible. Preview pages should make me excited to read a story, not make me roll my eyes at some of the most terrible dialogue I've seen in the reboot.

ok, but be honest: how much did U really care about her sexual desires in relation to her doing the hero-thing?

cuz I dont see where that would make any diff, atleast not enuff beyond being able to tell certain stories from the gay perspective, but even that sounds like it would be limiting after awhile........

y'all do know DC has just f@cked over us GL fan with this right? i mean already an non-GL fan (my brother) is making fun of me cause of this

*pfft!* like U werent already getting mocked BEFORE this happend...........

You know how I know you're gay?

You watch My Little Pony.

...........dude, U realizes that this makes IG *aLSO* panty-waist since he watches that show too, right??

OH NOES, HOW WILL TMW3 SURVIVE THIS TRAGEDY?!??

I find it pandering.
Was there this much of a lead up to Batwoman? No.
There should be as much LOOKIE LOOKIE OVER HERE! For a queer character as there is for a straight one.

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I said it before and I'll say it again - the decision to turn Alan Scott gay is nothing more than a publicity stunt. As far as I'm concerned it has no merit, no purpose.

^^^ these, QFMFT, plain & simple.




Tazer

[Big Daddy Dave Skywalker Moisture Farmer Find all posts View Profile Close Big Daddy Dave Skywalker]

DC should be ashamed of themselves for doing this. It's embarrassing in its attempt for good press. And I've lost hope that Robinson can recapture the talent he used to showcase on titles like Starman and The Golden Age. He's become the M Night Shamalan of comics.

[JohnnyV Pictionary Master Find all posts View Profile Close JohnnyV]

Yo.


ok, but be honest: how much did U really care about her sexual desires in relation to her doing the hero-thing?

cuz I dont see where that would make any diff, atleast not enuff beyond being able to tell certain stories from the gay perspective, but even that sounds like it would be limiting after awhile........

Tazer

Well, I didn't personally care. To be honest, I don't care about a superhero's sexuality. A good story is a good story, whether it's about a straight heterosexual white man or a gay, tranny, native-american. Rucka did do a masterful job of making Batwoman's sexuality a prominent theme of the book, while not making it more than it needed to be. One of the big storylines, in dealing with her origin was deeply rooted in her being a lesbian. But again, it was well told.

Now, if they only wrote stories about her being a lesbian then it would be limiting. But if you write superhero books, only with the intent to tell stories about their sex life it's going to be limiting no matter the orientation.

[Fearless Agent Orange Find all posts View Profile Close Fearless]

I'm just mad they went and altered an established character. Why not create an original character, like Bunker in Teen Titans? It just all feels forced...

[JohnnyV Pictionary Master Find all posts View Profile Close JohnnyV]

I'm just mad they went and altered an established character. Why not create an original character, like Bunker in Teen Titans? It just all feels forced...

To say that is saying the whole 52 reboot was forced, which I can definitely agree with. But people had to of seen this coming, the whole point of the new 52 was pseudo-start over, and establish new elements to characters. So why are people so mad about this one? People have come out 10x more upset about this than the changes which were made to Wonder Woman, and her story was completely flipped on its head compared to where she came before.

[Lantern A-train Guardian of the Universe Find all posts View Profile Close Lantern A-train]

^^Because people don't want their favorite male characters being Cock Jockeys plain and simple. I guarantee no one would be causing this much uproar if it was female iconic hero. No one wants Wonderman and Powerman but I bet if this was WW there would be at least 7 New Wonder Woman/Power Girl slash fanfic out within five minutes. People can deny it all they want but there has and will always be little to no uproar or even commenting if this was a woman.

[Fearless Agent Orange Find all posts View Profile Close Fearless]

To say that is saying the whole 52 reboot was forced, which I can definitely agree with. But people had to of seen this coming, the whole point of the new 52 was pseudo-start over, and establish new elements to characters. So why are people so mad about this one? People have come out 10x more upset about this than the changes which were made to Wonder Woman, and her story was completely flipped on its head compared to where she came before.

I can't speak for everyone, but I was never the biggest fan of Wonder Woman and could honestly care less about what changes they made to her backstory. So she got a Dad? Okay, big deal. Alan Scott had two children and a whole history of being a straight superhero. Now, not only did they just completely shred that backstory, but they took out two characters that I liked and enjoyed reading about.

Besides, if I thought for a second that this was motivated purely for a need to diversify the roster and not a play for good press and $$$, you wouldn't hear a thing from me. But that isn't the case here, and so, here we are... we have an established character fundamentally altered for the sake of a few press releases and maybe some more money thrown at the comic he's starring in.

So yeah, I stand by the idea that Marvel and DC are racing to see who can exploit homosexuality first, and contrary to what Marvel is doing, this move on DC's part has just gone and pissed me off.