Hell, Venom has his own title more often than not and he's technically a villain. Fuck it, they're villains simply for having "evil" colors on that lame little emotional spectrum. EVIL I say!
I agree about Volthoom. It's just using a name nobody was doing anything with and running with it. Johns has the chance to do something not as lame as I originally thought.
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The Third Army may not be individuals, but I'd still say they count as villains in much the same was Parademons or the Manhunters do.
I don't see why Volthoom wouldn't count as "from scratch". All Volthoom has ever been is a name of some dude we never meet properly from another universe.
I didn't mention Larfleeze or Atrocitus because I'm unsure if they count as proper Green Lantern villains. They were introduced as villains, but they've fought alongside the GLs more than against, haven't they? The Red Lanterns don't even seem to want to kill the Greens as part of their current agenda.
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Larfleeze and Atrocitus count I guess. They're connected to the lantern concept, but they are legitimate creations. Can't take that away from him, especially when they've done so well for DC.
But for the most part, he revamps other creations, which is a polite way of saying he tramples all over other creators work.
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Why use the name Volthoom? Why NOT use the name Volthoom?
Not for nothing, but it did benefit my own experience with the comic.
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Originally posted by SD80MAC View PostWhat I'd really like is a story that isn't centered on the emotional spectrum, which has been the norm since 2006 or 2007. Every story's been the same damned thing. C'mon, it's not like Superman only fights Kryptonians, or the Flash only faces speedsters!
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Originally posted by Mister Ed View PostBut once again, as I did when they used "Krona", I'm forced to ask, "Why? Why bother?"
If you are going to make an essentially new character, why give it the name of an old one at all? How does that benefit anybody? I'm willing to bet that pretty much nothing we know about Volthoom will be relevant to this character, so why use the name at all? It doesn't offend me or anything (especially not in this case, since Volthoom is practically just a name to me, anyway) it just baffles me. I don't get the point of making nods to older continuity with character names when you are going to ignore the continuity you are nodding to. New readers won't get the reference, and old readers won't likely be impressed by it when you ditch all the continuity that goes with that name...
I'm just scratching my head here...
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What I'd really like is a story that isn't centered on the emotional spectrum, which has been the norm since 2006 or 2007. Every story's been the same damned thing. C'mon, it's not like Superman only fights Kryptonians, or the Flash only faces speedsters!
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Originally posted by Big Daddy Dave View PostThe man needs to find a one way ticket to Guantanamo Bay for an extended vacation. And give Hal his ring back.
And I agree with Guantlet about the Volthoom thing. By making a nod to an obscure character from ANOTHER universe, they can do pretty much anything with it and not piss people off. It's not like it's Alan Scott being light in the loafers; how many Volthoom fans are out there? Seems to me like there's some actual opportunity here. Especially where I had it in my head it was just going to be some future version of Sinestro or another GL mainstay in a time travel senario.
If you are going to make an essentially new character, why give it the name of an old one at all? How does that benefit anybody? I'm willing to bet that pretty much nothing we know about Volthoom will be relevant to this character, so why use the name at all? It doesn't offend me or anything (especially not in this case, since Volthoom is practically just a name to me, anyway) it just baffles me. I don't get the point of making nods to older continuity with character names when you are going to ignore the continuity you are nodding to. New readers won't get the reference, and old readers won't likely be impressed by it when you ditch all the continuity that goes with that name...
I'm just scratching my head here...
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Originally posted by SD80MAC View PostNever underestimate the legions of Volthoom fanboys. LEGIONS!
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The man needs to find a one way ticket to Guantanamo Bay for an extended vacation. And give Hal his ring back.
And I agree with Guantlet about the Volthoom thing. By making a nod to an obscure character from ANOTHER universe, they can do pretty much anything with it and not piss people off. It's not like it's Alan Scott being light in the loafers; how many Volthoom fans are out there? Seems to me like there's some actual opportunity here. Especially where I had it in my head it was just going to be some future version of Sinestro or another GL mainstay in a time travel senario.
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