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Geoff Johns said it himself that the power of the RL's is at the far end of the spectrum, so far that the power eats you up on the inside, and as a RL you have no control over the power the rings give you. (http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=149332) So is Laira innocent for what she will do in the the Rage of the Red Lanterns arc coming up soon?
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17Yes, she has no control over the power ring47.06%8No, her rage called the ring she was asking for it52.94%9
IonFan says
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No, because it was still her actions that lead to her getting the ring.
Just like I don't believe being drunk is an excuse for your actions, because, it's your fault you got drunk in the first place. I think this analogy fits nicely.sigpicWinner: Reality TV draft 2014
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the same thing can be said about Carol Ferris when she became Star Sapphire
IonFan says
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When you start drinking, you know you're gonna get drunk. But when you get extremely pissed, do you expect a mind controlling ring to come and take you?Originally posted by Maverick_GL View Post
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Can it tho? She didn't really do much to warrant the Sapphire coming to her, did she? Hal loved her, and she loved Hal. But it wasn't like the Star Sapphire assisted that love, it demented it and made it all screwy.
In her case, I would liken it more to someone who is crazy. I do not blame schizophrenics for their actions, because they are not in control of their own bodies or minds.sigpicWinner: Reality TV draft 2014
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I always hope it will...Originally posted by The_Mad_Dragon View PostsigpicWinner: Reality TV draft 2014
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It's because of those debates that I drink so much in the first place...sigpicWinner: Reality TV draft 2014
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Amen brother.Comment
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I guess with Laira, it was the hatred that festered in her heart and grew that attracted the Hate Ring to her. She could have stopped herself. She should have recognized how much anger she had, and gone to Graf for some help. The seeds for this were planted sometime ago. The Hate Ring came to her through her own actions, and merely amplifies an emotion she was already allowing to grow inside her.
As for Carol, she was feeling positive emotion toward Hal, emotion all humans are supposed to feel. What happened with her is a foreign element twisted and demented that emotion, creating Star Sapphire.sigpicWinner: Reality TV draft 2014
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Yeah, but it could also be argued that she had a pretty solid reason to have her hate on. Although I do agree with you, she let it go to far.Originally posted by Maverick_GL View PostComment
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BUT at the time she know NOTHING of the RLs or how they work, if she did maybe she could of stopped herself. also she just got kicked out of the GLC, anyone would of been mad
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Reason for hatred? Absolutly. But yes, she let it get too far away from her. Her Willpower was not enough to contain her Hatred, and thus it overtook her.Originally posted by The_Mad_Dragon View Post
Yeah but a GL is a GL regardless of any sort of Spectrum. A GL uses their Willpower to act, and are supposed to refrain from diving into Emotion. Just like a cop really, if someone murdered a Cops family, then turned themselves in, the Cop should arrest them and allow the legal process to deal with them. If the cop in turned killed that person after surrender, they would be severely reprimanded (I would hope).Originally posted by IonFan View Post
Personally, I think that Cop would have a right to kill that man. As a Man, that right should be his. But a Cop means you have to follow a certain code of conduct, like the GLs.
Laira, as a person, WAS justified in killing Amon. But Laira as a GL was not.
In the end, she has no one to be angry with except herself.
Heres my question: Since we know Hal killed some Russians a while back with a gun and no Ring, and wasn't suspended nor faced any repercussions from the Guardians (all prior to any laws being passed about Lethal Force being allowed), could Laira have deactivated her Ring, snapped Amons neck and ripped his head off, then re-activated her Ring and been alright?
Can GLs kill with impunity if they are not currently wearing the GL symbol/using the Ring?sigpicWinner: Reality TV draft 2014
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The Guardians probably only care when their rings are used to commit such acts.Originally posted by Maverick_GL View PostComment
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Thats what I'm thinking.
So they should just told the GLs "Hey, from now on, carry a gun with you. After you defeat your enemy, deactivate your ring and blow their heads off. It will save us all some grief and a lot of paper work. Plus now we can use these Laws to dictate our vacation time with the Zamarons."sigpicWinner: Reality TV draft 2014
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