Well, obviously I should let the man speak for himself (now that I've done the opposite). When last it came up the comment was that Batgirl is a ridiculous concept because no girl could realistically take down any guy.
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Originally posted by Space Cop View PostBDD is convinced no woman in the world can beat a man. He's stated it a few times.
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Originally posted by Andrew NDBGeoff Johns should have a 10 mile restraining order from comic books, let alone films.
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Being from Kentucky, I've seen plenty of women beat the shit out of a man. It's not pretty.
Originally posted by Big Daddy Dave View PostNon powered female superheroes is like women wrestling. It sucks and it needs to go away.Last edited by JohnnyV; 10-01-2013, 06:21 PM.
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Originally posted by Big Daddy Dave View PostEven Batgirl. Her kicking a man's ass is about as ridiculous as a ten year old boy beating up a grown man.
At least in the wheelchair she was useful.
Originally posted by JohnnyV View PostBeing from Kentucky, I've seen plenty of women beat the shit out of a man. It's not pretty.
Ah man, did you never see some of those Lita/Trish Stratus matches? They rivaled a lot of the men in quality.
yea, I could see them handling guys left & right based on that, and while Im at it heres something else I completely accept:
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Originally posted by Andrew NDBGeoff Johns should have a 10 mile restraining order from comic books, let alone films.
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Well, I dunno. I mean there are, I thought, techniques and strategies for fighting people that greatly outweigh you, so I could believe that a well-trained fighter, in good shape, COULD take a bigger, heavier, untrained opponent down.
But probably not the way that they usually show them fighting in comics, which seems to be pretty much punching and kicking them in the head, chest, or gut. I would think that you would have to fight a bit "dirtier" than that to compensate for your opponent's size advantage, which I guess wouldn't look so heroic.
I suspect that realistically even the biggest, strongest, best-trained heroes (think Batman) can't really perform the feats that they are regularly shown doing. I mean, is it really all that much more unrealistic for a 99 pound woman, trained in martial arts, to take down a street thug, than it is for Batman to take down 15 ninjas attacking simultaneously? And when it comes down to it, is it really all THAT much more unrealistic for Batgirl or Batwoman to take on those 15 ninjas than Batman? I mean beyond a certain point, absurd is just absurd, no matter who the protagonist is.
It just strikes me as odd to have no problem with most of the stuff Batman does, but somehow any woman taking down a man in a fight is where one's suspension of disbelief cries foul?Last edited by Mister Ed; 10-01-2013, 09:08 PM.
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What people typically miss in terms of strategic fighting is that it's as much about displacing your opponents power as it is following through with power of your own. Which you can do being the smaller opponent. Though it's a martial arts flick and shouldn't be seen as "realistic", watch Ip Man 2, the climax fight scene proves this perfectly. You certainly can't be out of shape or untrained, but then again when we're talking about the Batwoman and other super-heroines of the world, we're talking about women in shape. And in the case of Batwoman, trained in not only martial arts but heavy military training as well.
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U mean those SCRIPTED matches, where they used PRACTISED MOVES on each other??
yea, I could see them handling guys left & right based on that, and while Im at it heres something else I completely accept:
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Originally posted by JohnnyV View PostI wasn't using it as an argument for a woman being able to beat up a man, I was using it to defend the idea of women's wrestling. A quality product has been put together before, so it can be done. It's just not done all that often.
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Originally posted by Andrew NDBGeoff Johns should have a 10 mile restraining order from comic books, let alone films.
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Pregnant woman takes down career criminal with 2 kicks:
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Tiny Karate Girl Throws down big guy:
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Lady Sleeper Holds guy:
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Girl breaks guy's jaw:
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Not gonna sway me!
The day we line the front lines with 10 year old boys and petite sexy women during wartime, or fill the ranks of the NFL with the same, I'll change my mind.
At least character like Power Girl, Wonder Woman, Kid Flash and Impulse have a reason to exist and pull their own weight in comics. No way I'd want a Catwoman, Batgirl, Batwoman, or Robin on my team if I was in the league. They should GTF outta there!
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